MISSING: Jaliek Rainwalker

[00:00] Hi, Crime Junkies. It's Britt, and I have big news. One of my favorite seasonal shows, CounterClock, is back with a brand new season, and it is wild. Host Delia D'Ambra is digging into the 2008 Lane Bryant murders. I mean, this isn't just a recap. It is a reinvestigation. She's talking to law enforcement, people from the community, even sources who have never spoken publicly until now. And you know I love a show that asks all the questions. Listen to CounterClock Season 8 now, wherever you get your podcasts. [00:31] Hi, Crime Junkies. I'm your host, Ashley Flowers. And I'm Britt. And today I want to tell you a story that highlights just how broken the American foster care system is. A young boy with a tragic past seemed to get a happy ending when he was adopted by parents who appeared to understand the unique work of raising a child with severe emotional problems. But his mysterious disappearance [01:01] of questions about those same parents and the system that put him in their care to begin with. This is the story of Jalik Rainwalker. [01:13] Thank you.

[01:43] In the fall of 2007, a boy in New York State named Jalik Rainwalker is going through a difficult time. Jalik is 12 years old, and he's one of these kids where, I mean, you can't help but feel like they've gotten just a really rough lot in life, pretty much from day one. You see, when Jalik was born, his mother had substance use problems with alcohol and crack cocaine. And so as a result, Jalik was born addicted to crack. [02:13] sexually abused as an infant and entered the state foster care system at a very young age. By the time he was seven years old, he had been in not one, not two, but six different foster homes. Oh, my God. And that much change at such a young age, not to mention, you know, whatever damage he may have suffered in utero from the drugs. That's going to cause a lot of trauma. It did. I mean, Jalik's got some pretty severe behavioral issues. [02:43] that have manifested in violence and both suicidal and homicidal tendencies, even at a young age. And he's also been diagnosed with reactive attachment disorder, which according to the Mayo Clinic's website means that he has a hard time kind of like building emotional connections with other people like his adoptive parents. So he's been adopted.

[03:13] Stephen Kerr. And they live in East Greenwich in Washington County, which is near like eastern New York. And they adopted him in May of 2004 officially. So he'd been with them, like I said, about two years before the adoption was official. Now, the couple also had three biological sons and an adopted daughter. But Jalik's emotional and mental health issues are never far away. [03:43] He allegedly threatened to sexually assault a younger boy in his homeschooling group. Jocelyn and Steven feel like they've kind of reached the end of their rope. [03:54] According to the Charlie Project, Stephen calls a crisis hotline on October 23rd and tells them that he and Jocelyn can't deal with Jalik anymore. And they're afraid that he's going to hurt their other kids. And what they basically ask for is they want to undo the adoption. That's not an option. Right. Like an adoption literally fuses a child into a family. [04:24] kids, we were bringing them into our family with all of the same rights and expectations given to, you know, biological kids, whether it's care, responsibility, love, even things like inheritances. So since Jalik has already been adopted, the process would be honestly a lot like making an adoption plan for a biological child. Yeah, this isn't something you can just reverse. Yeah, you don't just hit undo. Right. So when they call this hotline,

[04:54] instead. And again, you're talking about this because you've been through this. You have fostered kids. You've provided respite care. So do you want to give the lowdown on what respite care exactly is? Yeah, this wasn't planned, but we're actually doing respite care this weekend for another family. Sometimes it's... [05:12] just approved child care for times when, you know, maybe you have to leave the state for an emergency or a funeral and your placement isn't approved to travel with you yet. But in cases like this, it's more like a break for not just the foster parents, but the kids as well. So a child will go to another licensed family for a couple of days just so everyone can kind of cool off, take a break, get their heads together, and kind of figure out what the next steps are. So it's not [05:42] honestly designed to prevent that from happening. And I don't know about other states, but at least here in Indiana, they're usually... [05:48] pretty short, like less than a week or five days even. Right. So in this case, what happens is Jalik goes to respite care on October 26th, and he is placed with a couple named Elaine and Tom Person. Now, I didn't see this verified anywhere else, but according to the Find Jalik Task Force website, Stephen actually asked the persons if they can keep Jalik for two weeks while he's out [06:18] Celene, even though she's going to stay in the country, she doesn't want Jalik in the house. Again, they seem to be afraid of him or how he's reacting with the kids. And she's probably, you know, a little bit concerned about being able to control him or, you know, control the situations around him. Yeah. Now, the respite care family, they can't keep him the full two weeks because they themselves are due to leave town. But they do agree to keep Jalik for a few days with them.

[06:48] Jalik. Wait, so he isn't going to take this trip then? No. So on the Find Jalik site, which again, I haven't seen this verified anywhere else, but Elaine and Tom claim that Stephen was supposed to go to Romania for like two weeks, but he eventually had to cancel the trip because he couldn't find additional care for Jalik. So I think the trip got canceled or he decided not to go or whatever. Okay. So this whole thing goes down exactly as planned. [07:14] According to Elaine and Tom on the findalique.org website, he's really polite when he's with them. He's well behaved. He spends a lot of his time reading and they do some pretty normal things. Like they go to church on Sunday. They go to a high school football game one night. And since it's near Halloween, they go to a haunted house on another night. Like everything seems normal. He's playing video games with their adult kids. And by the end of the visit, Elaine writes that they, quote, [07:44] better behaved, polite, and grateful, [07:47] child. [07:48] end quote. Okay, but that's a complete difference than what Stephen and Jocelyn are describing. Yeah, and I don't know, we don't know what causes this, right? Like, I don't know if this is the situation that he's in. Did Jalik actually have problems with the family, and that's what was causing his behavior? Well, and as a devil's advocate, like, there often is, like, a honeymoon period with new placements, where... [08:09] The first couple of days of the first couple of weeks are really easy because they're a little bit afraid or scared or unsure about the situation. So they're on their best behavior. Interesting. In those opening days. That's really interesting because I think a lot of people, even like myself, who aren't familiar with this, look at this immediately and say, oh, like Stephen must have been like lying about how out of control Jalik was or how scared they were of him. But you're saying it's totally possible that he did have completely different behavior with two different families.

[08:39] I think so, especially you're looking at like experienced foster care workers as well, assuming that they have adult kids they've parented before. Yeah. I mean, he could just be in finally a safe place and feeling better and more confident and comfortable. But it also could just be him making sure he doesn't have to move one more time in his very short life already. That's true. So this weekend goes well. It goes as planned or not weekend, but this like period of time. And so Stephen picks up Jalik on November 1st as planned. Now, here's the thing. [09:09] Instead of going home, they stop off at Stephen's parents' house in Greenwich, which is about 10 minutes away from East Greenwich, so they can spend the night there. And nowhere could I find why this happens. From what my understanding is, is Stephen's parents weren't there anymore. So it would have been just him and Jalik there. Again, this is just 10 minutes away from where they live. I have no idea why he would stop there instead of going home. Yeah, it seems kind of weird to stop 10 minutes away from your final destination. [09:39] not like you're going to see your parents they're not there in the house yeah now according to allison martin's reporting in the post star steven tells jalique to go to bed around 9 p.m that night so he does with no problems steven comes in to check on him the next morning at about 7 a.m this is november 2nd and since everything looks okay like jalique looks like he's still in bed sleeping steven doesn't worry [10:03] But when Steven goes back later to get Jalik up, he finds every parent's worst nightmare. Because instead of Jalik being there, he's gone. So Steven says that it looked like the bed had been like padded with pillows and blankets and stuff to make it look like he was still in bed. And he thinks Jalik ran away because on the kitchen table, Steven finds two things.

[10:30] There's a sheet of paper that just says the word Albany on it. He says that it looks like the kind of thing that you might see hitchhikers have, you know. And there's also a note in here, but I want to have you read this for us. So the note says, quote, Dear everybody, I'm sorry for everything. I won't be a bother anymore. [10:52] Goodbye. [10:53] Jalik. [10:54] End quote. [10:55] So that does sound like a runaway note to me. But I guess my question is, like, with the sheet of paper that says Albany, does he have any connection to Albany? Well, he does have two half-brothers in the area, and he actually hasn't met them before during supervised visits. Okay. And so... [11:12] Stephen's first terrified thought is that Jaleek has run away to Albany. Right. And so he calls 911 at around 9 a.m. [11:22] Once police arrive, they're just as worried as Stephen is. And the search efforts start right away. Remember, it's November in New York State, so it's cold outside and only going to get colder. And plus, Jaleet doesn't have any food, any supplies or really any even like clothing that's going to make people think that he's going to do well out there. Like he is as vulnerable as a kid can be. [11:52] found was a runaway note. According to that same post star piece I mentioned earlier, she's afraid that it could be a suicide note because of Jalik's mental state. Jocelyn says Jalik hadn't ever attempted to die by suicide, but he'd talked about it. And that coupled with the note, you know, this is more than enough to send her worry into overdrive. Yeah, I can totally see that.

[12:18] So since Jalik is thought to be a runaway, there's no Amber alert issued or anything. [12:24] There's not a huge amount of information out there about the searches on the first couple of days, but I did read that the searches keep happening all through the weekend. The police are following all of their standard runaway protocols. So his description is entered into a national database of kids and law enforcement check out any local leads in case he's still in the area. [12:54] and a slight speech impediment. And they say that he was last seen wearing jeans, a gray t-shirt with a dragon on the front, black high-top shoes, and a yellow fleece pullover jacket. [13:06] On Monday, November 5th, this is three days after Jaleek went missing, a big search takes place out in the woods around Greenwich, looking for any signs of where he might be. [13:19] Now, this is a pretty intense operation with over 75 searchers. There's volunteers. We've got officials from the New York State Criminal Investigation Bureau, the Washington County Sheriff's Office, Forest Rangers and state police major crimes. I'm sorry. What is major crimes doing out here for this kid that we think is just a runaway? Yeah. So here's the thing. According to Don Lehman's reporting in The Post star, the chief of police, this guy named George Bell,

[13:49] is starting to get, I don't want to say a little skeptical, but if you read his quotes from the piece on November 6th, this is the day after this big search, you can see the wheels in his head turning. Because the chief of police is starting to ask questions. [14:07] questions about this whole thing. It's not feeling right. And he's not the only one asking questions. [14:18] Chime is changing the way that people bank. They offer the most rewarding fee-free banking built for you. Chime has thousands of fee-free ATMs. Like, why pay to get your own money? Plus, you can get savings that grow faster with a 3.75% APY. That is nine times higher than the national average. Chime members can even staff benefits, like up to $1,150 in annual rewards. [14:46] and premium travel perks. Their Spot Me feature even lets you overdraft up to $200. And all of that is without fees. There is nothing not to like about this. It is clear why Chime is rated five stars by USA Today for customer service. Real humans 24-7. When you switch, you're not just switching banks. You are upgrading to America's number one choice for banking with a Chime checking account. Chime's not just smarter banking. It's the most rewarding way to bank. [15:16] who are already banking fee-free today. Head to chime.com slash crimejunkie. That's chime.com slash crimejunkie. It only takes a few minutes to sign up. Chime is a fintech, not a bank. Banking services for MyPay and Chime card provided by Chime's bank partners. Optional products and services may have fees or charges. Stated annual percentage yield and cashback for Chime Prime only. No minimum balance required. Checking account ranking based on a J.D. Power survey published October 20, 2025. For more information on APY rates, MyPay, SpotMe, and Travel Perks, go to chime.com slash disclosures.

[15:43] In that same article, the Washington County District Attorney goes on record with the chief of police saying that police have to treat Jalik's disappearance as a possible homicide to preserve all the evidence in case they find out that foul play was involved or this is a case of foul play like later on. They don't want to tamper anything or not collect anything. Collect as much as possible just in case you need it. But best case scenario, you don't. You don't. Right. [16:13] Chief George also announces that while the police haven't found any evidence that Jalik's been the victim of a crime, he makes it very clear that law enforcement aren't ruling out that possibility. So they're being super careful with their words, of course, but something about the whole situation feels off to them because the closer they look at how he was cared for, it's just not feeling right. [16:43] any kind of psychiatric care for his mental health conditions. And he wasn't on any type of medications either. So for me, at least, that's super problematic. Like as a foster parent and an adoptive parent, you know, it's a huge priority to make sure that these kids in care and post-adoptive have access to the treatment that they need in order to help them cope with the trauma that they've been through, again, as children. Yeah. And Jocelyn does say that they

[17:13] But she points to the difficulty of finding services in the area, which, to be fair, when I looked up East Greenwich, where they live, it's not so much a town or a city on its own. Rather, it's a part of Greenwich as a whole. And Greenwich as a whole has less than 5,000 people. Oh, so it's like a really small community. Yeah. So there could be some real validity in Jocelyn saying that it was hard to find mental health services in their area. [17:42] As the searches continue and concerns about his welfare are mounting by the minute, all the reported potential sightings of Jalik turn out to be false leads. Police bring in divers to search this river that's about like 10 minutes away from where Jalik was last seen, while forest rangers keep combing the woods around Greenwich. But despite all their efforts, no one can find any sign that Jalik was ever there. [18:08] With hope dwindling in the first week, law enforcement's tone keeps getting darker and darker. Neil Goswami reported for the Bennington Banner that the police have followed up on over 150 leads by November 8th, but have come up empty on every single one. And as a result, the Greenwich chief of police believes that Jalik has been harmed by, quote, someone or something. [18:38] is getting ready to start, police actually ask local hunters just to keep an eye out in the woods. I absolutely love this idea. My brother and most of his friends are all hunters and, you know, they usually hunt in the same areas every single season. So they already know the land, the terrain. They're familiar with tracking techniques even. And I mean, let's be honest, they're just going to be out there anyway. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a great idea. And I can't tell you how many cases have we covered where it is a hunter that finds something. So letting them

[19:08] look out and keep their eyes open, I think is even better. Totally. [19:12] Now, so one of the things that I noticed is that in all of the articles about the early searches for Jalik, there's not a lot of mention of his adoptive parents being out there with volunteers. In some of the other missing persons cases we've talked about, like when we did our story on Leochi, like the parents or family members are out there every single day doing everything they can to try and bring their loved one home. But we don't really see that here. Now, that doesn't mean that they weren't there. It just means that I couldn't find it. And it's something that stood out to me. [19:42] more and more of the things that Stephen and Jocelyn do, or [19:46] don't do stand out to me and start attracting attention from other people. [19:52] Now, we've said on the show that pretty much since day one, like everyone expresses their grief differently. You never know how you're going to react like when the worst happens until the worst happens. Yeah. And I mean, grief also isn't a performance. It's something that's very personal and internal. Right. And you express it individually. Absolutely. But we've also seen time and time again how a parent's behavior can impact the public's perception of them. [20:22] Stephen Kerr. You see, two candlelight vigils are held for Jalik during the first couple of weeks in November. And according to WTEN News, Stephen's there at the second vigil. [20:34] Selling eggs? Like chicken eggs? Like, I... what? I guess. The broadcast didn't clarify, just that he's selling eggs. Okay, I mean...

[20:45] The only way that even seems remotely appropriate to me is if it's like a fundraiser for a reward for information about Jalik or bringing him home safely. Nothing in my research says that it is. [20:58] Because, yeah, I could understand that. If this is designed to help, like, get their son home, to your point, like, raising money, I don't know how much you're going to raise with eggs, but if that's all they had, like, I get that. But I don't see anything to verify that that's what this is. The egg selling seemed to be a way just for them to, [21:14] to make money based on all the reporting that's out there. According to WTN News, police take note of this and find it as unusual as we do. Now, it goes on to say that when Stephen speaks at the vigil, his speech isn't really focused on Jalik. Instead, he's, quote, going on and on about Martin Luther King Jr., end quote. And then when the WTN interviewer asks him about it later, [21:44] This is how Stephen responds. [21:48] I know that you're very passionate about Martin Luther King. No, I'm very passionate about my son. And you know what? If you can't rely on people you... [22:00] Thank you. [22:01] Call your heroes when the time is tough. [22:05] Who do you rely on? [22:09] News media? [22:10] Jerry Springer? [22:13] Okay, well, that was at least a bit combative. Strange, right? But also, it's a totally valid question. This is his son's vigil, and he's not even really talking about him at all? Yeah.

[22:27] Now, the day after this vigil, Nick Reisman and Don Lehman reported for the Post star that Stephen and Jocelyn have hired a lawyer who's advised Stephen not to speak to the police without his legal counsel present. Beyond that, Stephen walked out in the middle of a polygraph test. And so, needless to say, the relationship between Jalik's adoptive parents and the police is getting seriously strained. OK, but what about Jocelyn? [22:57] polygraph as well? Well, according to Andy McKeever's reporting in the Bennington Banner, within less than three weeks of Jalik's disappearance, Jocelyn did take a polygraph, but police won't comment on the results. Oh. For their part, Stephen and Jocelyn maintain that they had nothing to do with Jalik's disappearance, and they take to the media to air their grievances [23:27] how police have treated Stephen. And here, I'm going to play you some more of that audio interview that they gave to WTEN News. [23:35] When Stephen still refused to take the polygraph and refused to confess to something that they were trying to get him to confess to, they were asking him questions which are totally inappropriate. [23:44] So what kind of questions are they asking that she thinks are so inappropriate? So later on in that same interview, Jocelyn clarifies what kind of questions they were asking. And she may have said a little more than she meant to.

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[25:38] Now, the whole news segment is super interesting because in addition to Stephen and Jocelyn speaking out, WTEN News also reports that Stephen won't provide his DNA to law enforcement. But, [25:51] Now, Stephen's not considered a suspect in Jalik's disappearance, and without a warrant, he's under absolutely no legal obligation to give police a sample. As part of their investigation, police issue subpoenas to news outlets to get basically they want the full footage of this interview and other interviews that Stephen has given to media. [26:12] They won't comment on what they're looking for, but they do confirm that Stephen stopped cooperating with police. And they say that Stephen and Jocelyn were discussing returning Jalik to foster care, meaning that police are now telling the public that they were coming up with potentially a plan to put him back into foster care. Right. And like going back to what I said earlier, adoption is a legal child. Like once you adopt, it's a legal child. [26:42] essentially be terminating their parental rights at that point, correct? Right, exactly. And again, these conversations were happening like when Jalik went missing, so like right before. [26:55] As November fades into December, though, Stephen and Jocelyn do put up a $25,000 reward for any information that leads to getting Jalik home safe. But what I find very interesting about this is that they do it on their own without coordinating with the police.

[27:25] York City and moving upwards. The search doesn't yield any new clues, so police expand their search outside of New York and into Vermont, where the family had previously spent time at a campground about 20 minutes away from their home. But once again, there's nothing that they can find. [27:45] They also keep searching that river that was near where Jalik went missing. And with every search that goes by without a trace of Jalik, the gnawing feeling in their gut that something terrible might have happened just continues to grow. And so with nothing to go on, police decide to look a little closer to home. [28:15] announced they've subpoenaed phone records for the cell towers in Washington County to try and pinpoint Stephen Kerr's whereabouts on the night Jaleek went missing. [28:26] According to another one of Don Lehman's post-star articles, Stephen isn't all that bothered about this. Rather, he claims to welcome it as he believes the results will, quote, continue to exonerate him, end quote. But while Stephen's confident he's being proven innocent, I guess, other people start going very, very public with their doubts,

[28:56] right before he disappeared. And another person that comes forward is Jalik's maternal adoptive grandparents, Dennis Smith and Barbara Reely. So that would be Jocelyn's parents. Correct. Okay. Elaine and Tom together with Barbara and Dennis organize another vigil for Jalik two days before Christmas. And not only were Stephen and Jocelyn not there, [29:26] taking down posters advertising the event. [29:30] Why? Well, they allege that Stephen feels like they're pointing the finger at him and that both Stephen and Jocelyn, who... [29:38] mind you, is like their daughter, have completely stopped communicating with them. I mean, on one hand, I want to think, you know, this family has been through a lot already. And now these, quote, outsiders, the persons, essentially are doing something to honor their child. [29:52] I can see that being something maybe you don't want to participate in, but you don't take it down. It's weird. Yeah. Like, it's one thing to feel like Tom and Elaine are against you. But, you know, Jocelyn's parents are there. I don't. Yeah. Well, and even though, like, again, even though this is causing, like, a weird family dynamic and people clearly aren't getting along, like, both Jocelyn's parents and the person's, they don't stop. Like, they keep talking to the media. And their claims throw serious doubt into some of the basic facts about this case. [30:22] Let me give you an example. So you remember that note that Jalik supposedly left on the kitchen table? Yeah. So according to Elaine, that's not a runaway note at all.

[30:34] Okay, then what is it? Well, she says that it's an apology note. She tells the Post star that Jalik actually wrote that note at her house the night before Stephen came to pick him up. Because she says that it was actually a homework assignment to apologize to his homeschool group. [31:04] somewhere. And unfortunately, there's nothing to prove or disprove his theory. The harsh New York winter is hindering any additional ground searches. But police do get into a hydroelectric dam on the river that's just downstream from where Jalik was last seen in the hopes that maybe something of Jalik's like clothing or something may have gotten lodged in there. And so in what's becoming an all too familiar event, though, the search of the dam just turns up nothing. I mean, [31:34] thinking like this is a place he either went to or if he was in the river, some of his stuff might have gotten caught in there, but like they find nothing. I mean, it's almost as if Jalik just vanished into thin air. All the while now, though, Stephen and Jocelyn maintain that he's alive. And they offer the theory that maybe he ran away to join a gang. But beliefs are saying like, we have no evidence to support this idea that Jalik would ever join a gang.

[32:04] This is also a kid who's living a pretty sheltered life being homeschooled. Like, [32:10] I was homeschooled my entire life. Going to find a gang, that doesn't really compute well for me in my experience at least. Yeah. As police keep exploring every possible avenue that they can think of, another group emerges with a similar mission to find Jalik and bring him home. According to another one of Don Lehman's post-star pieces, the Find Jalik Task Force is announced on December 29, 2007. This is one month and 28 days after he first went missing. [32:40] Now, this isn't like an official task force like we normally talk about with law enforcement agencies. It's not affiliated with police at all. But the Cambridge Greenwich police chief publicly does give this group his endorsement. Oh, wow. [32:54] Elaine Person is heading up the task force along with her husband, Tom, and some of Jalik's former foster parents. And according to their website, findjalik.org, his maternal grandparents, Barbara and Dennis, are involved as well, though Stephen and Jocelyn are not involved. [33:11] Along with this task force announcement, the media, for the first time, really starts to shine some light into what Jalik's life was like at home with Stephen and Jocelyn. And Britt, the conditions that they describe, like the house that they were all living in, in East Greenwich, is... [33:33] I can't even like wrap my head around it. So it didn't have running water. It didn't have indoor plumbing. So they all had to use outhouses in the yard for toilets. And it only had a limited amount of electricity. And we actually have some pictures of this house and the outhouse up on our website. Okay, I'm sorry.

[33:55] I have so many questions. I've been through [33:57] So many home studies in two different homes [34:01] There's no way that this placement should have ever been approved. Not for fostering, not for adoption, running water, stable electricity. Those are like very basic requirements. Exactly. And I mean, even beyond that. So the Post star also reported on December 29th that Stephen and Jocelyn's other kids were actually, quote, out of their care for a few days early on in the investigation. [34:31] They obviously go look and see where he was living in his home. They find out that the house that they were living in didn't even have a certificate of [34:39] occupancy, saying that it was safe and like up to building codes. Like not only can you not have a foster kid and like adopt, but like people shouldn't be living in there. Right at all. And I mean, police had to have known about this before it showed up in the news, right? I'm not 100% certain, but I don't see how they wouldn't have. So all that stuff is what was reported in the media. But on the Find Jalik Task Force website, a lame person goes into a lot more detail. Now, like I said before, this is just on the site. It wasn't re-reported anywhere else. But since we [35:09] know a little bit about how he was living. And since the police chief is on board with this task force, I think it's worth considering what they're putting out there. So according to this website, [35:19] What they say, like, because, you know, your biggest question is, like, how does this even get approved? Like, there's so many, like, things set in place, so many home studies or whatever. What the website says is that the family actually moved into this house after Jalik was adopted.

[35:35] So I think you kind of alluded to it before. But, like, what I've learned just from watching you is, like, there's a lot that's done while you're a foster parent. I mean, there's home studies. They're coming and doing drop-bys, like, their visits. There's all these different things. [35:49] state steps out, it's done. Like they don't check in. They don't see how it's going a year later. There's like nothing like that. So it seems from the website, like they were in a home where a home study would have gotten approved. And when the adoption was final, they moved into this shack or whatever this thing was. Yeah. And I mean, basically what you said earlier, and like I said earlier, once the adoption is final, it's like they're your kids, they are your kids. And there's really no reason for any other agency to come in and make sure that you're being a parent, just like [36:19] biological family. And so, [36:22] It's frustrating because this should have never happened, but... [36:26] There's really no oversight in that situation. Right. To your point, it is as if you birthed that child yourself. And so unless there's like new claims of child neglect or child abuse. There's no reason for any other interference. Exactly. Now, the more we learn about this house, we learn that it was pretty small. It only had two rooms. And I don't mean two bedrooms. It had two rooms. That's why I called it a shack earlier.

[36:56] in the room upstairs. So you're talking two adults, four boys between eight and 14 years old, and Jalik's adoptive sister, all together with no privacy except for a curtain that partitioned off an area for Jalik's sister. [37:11] In addition, before Jalik came to live with them, Stephen was allegedly overheard by another foster parent describing how the family practiced something called nakey time, where everyone ran around naked. I mean, nudity isn't inherently sexual, but you have to consider Jalik's history with sexual abuse, being a survivor, and Jocelyn saying that, you know, please question Stephen about inappropriate sexual behavior. [37:41] more than one red flag for me. Yeah. And I mean, you have to be so careful and so considerate, I think is maybe a better word, around kids who have been subjected to [37:52] any sort of trauma, let alone physical or sexual trauma. Right. [37:56] So as far as their house itself, they have a generator and sometimes ran it. That's when I said it had like sometimes or a little bit of electricity. But the house was primarily heated by a wood burning stove, which didn't provide enough heat in the harsh New York winters. [38:14] The family only ate meat once a week and only bathed once every two weeks. For discipline, FindJalik.org alleges that back when the family lived in a different house, one with, you know, doors, Jalik would actually be locked in his unheated bedroom without a portable heater as punishment. At their other home, the one with the outhouse, Jalik allegedly forgot to put a lid on the toilet paper container one time.

[38:44] As a result, Jocelyn banned him from using the outhouse for a couple of days. And so his only options to relieve himself were to either go out in the woods near the house or to hold it and try and find a public bathroom when the family went to run errands. [39:00] And to continue on, like the punishment, like when the kids got caught swearing, they allegedly had to put soap in their mouths 10 seconds at first, like the first time they did it. And then 20 seconds if they did it again. And like the more and more you did it, the longer and longer you would have to do that. I mean, this does not sound like a safe and secure environment or home for any kid. And again, let alone a kid who has already experienced so much trauma and upheaval in his life, like unheated bedrooms being banned from using their only bathroom. [39:30] Option to go to the bathroom. The outside bathroom? Yeah. It all sounds like a pretty solid case for neglect at the very least. But this is what's so scary, right? Because, again, we talked about, okay, the state would come back in if there was neglect or if there was abuse. But... [39:46] They're like so sheltered, right? They're kind of in the middle of nowhere. They're being homeschooled. Like who's going to notice? They've completely isolated themselves. And like as a foster parent, I am a mandatory reporter, much like social workers or teachers. If I see something like this, I'm mandatorily required to report it. But they had no contact with anybody like that, honestly, other than like. [40:09] Tom and Elaine. Right. Right. [40:12] Now, interestingly, too, it wasn't necessarily all of the kids. Like, obviously, they all lived together. They were all experiencing some of this. But there was some alleged favoritism, at least according to this website, towards one of Jaleek's older brothers, which is one of Stephen and Jocelyn's biological kids. Mm-hmm.

[40:30] According to the website, again, we know Jalik, at least, is part of his homeschool group, but this brother was going to a private school that cost $17,000 per year. Um... [40:44] I'm sorry. You have $17,000 a year for tuition. [40:48] and choose to not have a toilet? And this is the thing, I couldn't get a handle around what the family's finances were. Obviously, Stephen was talking about going away. He had some kind of job. He worked. I'm not sure about Jocelyn. I had read somewhere that between Jalik and his adoptive sister, they were getting something like $30,000 a year from the state to take care of [41:18] like half of at least that money. And granted, they may not have used that. They may have used other income. But you have money for this tuition. It seems like there are some other basic needs you could be meeting for your other kids. [41:30] Actual electricity, not a generator. Again, a toilet seems pretty general. Yeah. And remember when they put up the $25,000 reward, my first question was like, where did that money come from? Yeah. Now, like I said, the only place that I could find all of this information was on that website. But there was one thing I found on this website that I did find elsewhere, one very specific and very disturbing allegation.

[42:00] Jocelyn confided in her mother that once, about three years before Jalik went missing, Stephen held Jalik's head underwater as punishment. And for his part, in the same article, Stephen claims he can't remember this incident ever happening and that he wants the task force to, quote, stop focusing on things I may or may not have done, end quote. Yeah. [42:28] Okay. [42:29] Personally, I am only one mother to two kids and I've not been doing this that long, but I feel like [42:36] Even if you're just like an okay parent, you can probably say with confidence, no, I've never held my kids head underwater on purpose. Thank you. As a punishment. Thank you. I truly vividly remember every single time I've accidentally stepped on May's toes when she's like in the kitchen while I'm trying to make dinner and gets kind of like in my way. And I feel terrible about it every single time it happens and can remember them. Yeah. [43:06] You don't remember if you held your son- Dunt your kid underwater and held them there? That is wild to me. A hundred percent. [43:16] Now, shortly after New Year's Day of 2008, the FBI requests that Stephen Kerr take a polygraph test. He never responds. And on Monday, January 14th, he is officially named a person of interest in Jalik's disappearance. According to more of Don Lehman's Poststar reporting, police have apparently surveillance footage of Stephen on the night of November 1st,

[43:46] match Stephen's version of what he told police happened that night. So just to call back to this, Stephen always said that he was there at his parents' house with Jalik all night. But I guess, what did the phone records show? Well, at the time, police were still working on the phone records, so they didn't have those quite yet. Allegedly, though, the surveillance footage shows Stephen out driving [44:16] contradicting his alibi. And so police want to search the van again, but Stephen won't let them. [44:22] Now, along with naming him a person of interest for the first time, police also go into more detail about what they perceive as Stephen's unwillingness to help them. So we know he refuses polygraphs from both local law enforcement and the FBI, but he also didn't fill out an FBI questionnaire that would give them more insight into Jalik's mental state and mindset before his disappearance. And here's the kicker. [44:52] when he has supposedly discovered Jalik is missing. [44:56] He waited almost an hour and a half to call 911. What? Yeah. Like, apparently, he'd already found the note at, like, 7.30 in the morning. But he waited until 8.57 before he called police. Right. You said it was, like, almost 9. Yeah. Oh, my God. According to findalique.org, Stephen allegedly spent that time taking a shower and then going to the video store to return some movies.

[45:26] did not call police for that long. So like everything else in this case, it just doesn't make sense. Like, I think we can all agree at this point that Stephen's behavior is bound to raise some eyebrows. But just a couple of weeks later, [45:42] The focus of the investigation gets turned on its head. On January 30th, 2008, the Post Star newspaper and a group of local TV news outlets gets an anonymous letter in the mail claiming that Jalik Rainwalker is. [46:00] is alive. The Post star published it. [46:03] And here, I want you to read it for me. [46:08] For decades, some cold cases have been reduced to files in a cabinet, but not anymore. I'm Ashley Flowers, and me and my team on the deck have been traveling across the country to report on these forgotten cases, and in some instances, it's resulted in these cases being solved after decades. [46:28] Join me every Wednesday as we revive these stories one card at a time. Listen to the deck now. [46:35] wherever you get your podcasts. [46:39] So the anonymous letter says, quote, Jalik, still alive, needed a foot soldier for this war on drugs. [46:47] Picked him up route 40 post 30. He's okay. No fake. He says, ask his mama and papa, who are the macaroni family? My cat named Diamond?

[46:58] Why does Franti yell fire? [47:00] Don't try to look... [47:01] We are not there. End quote. Okay, Ashley, can you even attempt to decode this for me? Like, macaroni family... [47:10] cat named Diamond, who is franty? So the whole thing is super weird, right? According to the Cambridge Greenwich chief of police, Jalik did have a cat named Diamond at one point. And [47:24] Franti seems to be a musical reference, question mark. There's an artist named Michael Franti who put out a record called Yell Fire with his band Spearhead in 2006. But everything else is pretty cryptic. I mean, even if that's what it is, I don't understand why this is part of the note. And I mean, what stood out to me right away is the use of. [47:45] quote, war on drugs, because either they're trying to insinuate that Jalik is out there dealing drugs for someone, or he's part of the U.S. government's effort to reduce the sale of legal drugs. But neither of them really make sense to me. I mean, does anything about this letter make sense? That's a very good point. So this letter is postmarked from Westchester, New York. There isn't a town called Westchester, but there is a Westchester County three hours [48:15] Greenwich that borders the Bronx in New York City. And as police are waiting for forensic analysis of this letter, like, you know, they're looking for fingerprints, possible DNA. They put out a call the next day asking for more information from the sender to prove that the letter is real.

[48:33] Within just days of this letter, though, the police turn their focus right back on Stephen and Jocelyn. [48:41] On February 7th, 2008, state and local police officers searched the home of Stephen Kerr's parents. Remember, this is the last place where Jalik was allegedly seen. And according to a source in the Post Star, they're looking for computers, typewriters and printers to see if any of the equipment can be tied to that, you know, quote, anonymous letter that they received. OK, so do they find anything? [49:05] I don't know. So the letter is kind of like a dangler. Like I couldn't find anything about the results of the analysis on Stephen and Jocelyn's computers or typewriters or whatever. And I couldn't find anything to confirm or deny that the letter was a hoax. So I have no idea how this ended. Like, again, they put out this call for people. We know they did this search, but they never really like tied it up in a bow for the public. But that doesn't mean that the police don't know one way or the other. [49:36] say the letters prove that Jalik is alive. But police rebut that and say there's no evidence that Jalik is, in fact, still living. So the truth is, we have no idea about this letter at all. We have no idea what it means. We have no idea if it really has any connection to this case. It's just one of the many, many things that makes this case so powerful. [49:56] frustrating because every time it feels like police might finally catch a break, it seems to disappear almost as soon as it shows up.

[50:05] But police do get their next break in March of 2008 because they finally get Stephen's phone records back. The results show what they believe is more inconsistency in Stephen's story, because according to more of Don Lehman's post-star reporting, Stephen's cell phone pinged on towers that don't match the route that he told police he took that night. [50:35] Rose, New York at about 8.15 p.m. on November 1st, 2007. But his phone records actually put him about 30 miles south in South Troy. So, [50:48] Even with this, Stephen's still not considered a suspect. But once again, police are left to examine his behavior and the discrepancies in his stories and wonder, I mean, he's got to be hiding something, right? And if so, how do they get to the bottom of what that is and why his story is not adding up? Searches for Jalik resume as the ground starts to thaw, but the renewed search efforts don't bring any new leads. [51:18] springtime. Stephen and Jocelyn eventually leave New York to move to Vermont, which sounds like a bigger move than it is. Basically, they just move across state lines about 20 minutes away. And then in July of 2008, Jalik's grandmother, Barbara, who remembers on that task force, she actually, in a weird turn of events, gets charged with burglary. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, so here's what

[51:48] Barbara went to Stephen and Jocelyn's old house to look for clues. She says she found the door unlocked and went inside. [51:57] And get this. [51:58] She found something. She found a piece of clothing that Jalik was allegedly wearing at the time of his disappearance. So... Wait, like... [52:09] Like the dragon shirt, the yellow pullover? Well, news reports from the time didn't say what it is, but I read on the Charlie Project site that what she found was Jalik's yellow fleece jacket. Oh, my God. And when police go back to the house with a warrant, there it is. So this burglary is totally connected to this case. And even though she seemed to have gotten charged, it to me seems to be totally worth it. [52:39] But yet again, the investigation hits. [52:43] And with the one-year anniversary of Jalik's disappearance coming up, no new leads and no suspects, the investigation does cool off and eventually go cold. [52:57] There are some flares over the next few years and law enforcement never gives up completely. But there's only so much that they can really do. [53:06] Jalik Rainwalker's disappearance is officially labeled a homicide in 2012. And to this day, police have kept up on following leads like reported sightings and video footage and identifying remains in hopes that potentially they could belong to him. But no one has ever been charged. And the case still remains open.

[53:28] I wish so much that I could give a positive update or at least say that the truth has been found. But that hasn't happened yet. As of 2021, Jalik fell through the cracks of a system in dire need of reform. So this month we're donating to Child Advocates, which is a nonprofit here in Indianapolis to try to. [53:53] and patch up at least some of those cracks here where we live so kids like Jalik have a safer, healthier future. You can learn more about their work at childadvocates.net. And if you know anything about the disappearance of Jalik Rainwalker, please contact the Cambridge Greenwich Police at 518-722. [54:17] 6 7 7. [54:19] 3 0 4 4. [54:22] you can find all our source material for this episode on our website crimejunkiepodcast.com and be sure to follow us on instagram at crimejunkie podcast we'll be back next week with a brand new episode

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