The Jonas Brothers

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[01:55] Fox. [01:56] Flair jeans are back. I love it. Who knew? Shopwalmart.com to score their favorite back-to-school styles starting at just $4. [02:18] McBreach? McBrayer? [02:23] Big brazzle. Oh, crap. How are you? You know, one of the best things about doing these things is that I just get to say hi to people, and I miss you. It's good to see you. Oh, it's been a minute. I guess the last time I would have seen you was February 14th at... [02:38] Radio City Music Hall for the SNL music thing. Oh, that's right. For the big 50th celebration. How are you? I can't believe I'm doing this. What is this, by the way? Oh, I don't know. [02:50] Who knows? It's a pyramid scheme. No, this is a podcast called Good Hang, and I'm here with the Jonas Brothers. [02:58] I'm familiar. I'm familiar. When did you become first familiar with the Jonas Brothers as an entity rather than actual people? Good question. As an entity, I mean, it would have been, I guess, early in their career because we knew like who all the Disney kids were. Right. And they were some of the, you know, OG Disney kids. [03:20] But I mean, because I am older than everyone, I'm not me.

[03:27] We're a close, a close second. But I didn't necessarily know their work. I knew they were very, very popular. And I knew that they did movies together as brothers. And, you know, [03:41] It was interesting to watch that evolution because, I mean, I could not even imagine working with any member of my family. And yet here they were with this whole empire. I know. It's really, really fun to think about the questions I want to ask them because it is they are working with their family. It is not a family business is not easy. It's a very interesting dynamic to watch, but also. [04:05] They are all just genuine people. [04:07] human beings, just wonderful young men. And it really has been a pleasure to get [04:12] to know all of them together and each of them individually. So how did you meet them? How did you become friends? February 14th, another Valentine's Day, 2009, Alec Baldwin was hosting Saturday Night Love with your musical guest, the Jonas Brothers. And Alec, very graciously, had an opportunity for me to come up during the monologue and do a fun little bit with them. And so because I'm there for the days leading up to it for those rehearsals, I got to hang out with the Jonas Brothers. It was so delightful. They were just big fans of comedy. [04:42] and they're just like, [04:44] Again, good, solid performance. [04:46] Folk. So that is when I met them. And over the years, our paths crisscrossed through different things. I was staying at the same hotel in Toronto as Nick Jonas several years later. And they all came to Saturday Night Live again when Demi Lovato was a musical guest. So a lot of just crisscrossing through the years. And then more recently, Nick Jonas got back into acting or, you know,

[05:16] Queens with my neighbor Glenn Powell. Right, that's your neighbor. So Glenn would have movie nights and all that kind of stuff. You are so connected, Jack. [05:24] I might be too connected. It's weird. It's auspicious. It's fantastic. It's the best. I love it. Famous people are the best. [05:40] Okay, so Glenn and you and Nick and others have game nights, I'm hoping. [05:45] All right. Game nights, movie nights. Oh, oh, oh, you're going to love this. [05:50] Nick Jonas's favorite movie is They Came Together. And you know why I know this? During COVID... [05:58] During COVID, I went to your driveway. There was only a few people I saw during COVID, and one of them was Jack McBrayer, who came to my driveway masked and gloved, because that was back when we were really... [06:09] We were taking all precautions to sign a... [06:14] They Came Together poster, a film that me and Paul Rudd did for Nick Jonas. [06:19] Nick Jonas, whose birthday is? The same birthday as mine. September 16th. And the reason why Jack knows that is because Jack is a savant. [06:29] is a savant. One of his love languages is you remember and you take deep, [06:35] You care deeply about [06:38] reaching out to people on their birthday and everyone gets a Jack McBrayer happy birthday text. And it means a lot to a lot of us. [06:45] It's so fun. And, you know, I learn a lot. Some people are like, oh, you only texted me this year. I like it when you call me so I can keep the message. I was like, oh, my gosh. So, yeah, I try to shake it up. Today, I only have one. It's Leslie Powell, Glenn Powell's sister. Oh, I do whole families. I know. It's like, let's see, Kevin Jonas is November 5th. Wow. Joe Jonas, August 15th, and Nick Jonas, September 16th. And so as Nick and Joe and Kevin's friend...

[07:13] Um, what question do you think I should ask them today? What is their conflict resolution situation like? I think, I wonder, like, I think that their lives are so unique because they've been famous so much longer than they've been not famous. Mm hmm. [07:32] What does that mean? [07:33] feel like what you're talking about is so interesting because the question there is like you've had you've had to deal with fame for a really long time what's your relationship to it now and i wonder too like if each of the individual brothers deals with it differently for example you know kevin and his family are off on the east coast and and you know there's co-parenting going on with there's just a lot of different versions of what's happening and uh but they're all just [08:03] I'm such a fan of them as people. [08:06] Also, they're good at music. They're really good at music. They're very ugly. [08:13] All right, Jack, I love you. Thank you so much for giving us the time and the question. Oh, my gosh. Well, I hope it was helpful. And, yes, have so much fun with them. I'm so happy to see you. You too, buddy. [08:25] This episode is brought to you by Laneige. [08:28] Being a big fan of multitasking, I love a two-in-one. Like, for example, I like a sofa that's also a bed, and it's called a sofa bed, and I enjoy that. So I'm super happy to tell you all about the Cream Skin 2-in-1 Toner and Moisturizer by Laneige, another two-in-one that I love. It's the original Korean Milky Cream Toner Hybrid, which combines the benefits of a rich cream with the lightweight texture of a liquid toner to deliver radiant, hydrated, glass skin.

[08:58] at Sephora stores and Sephora.com. [09:02] I am so psyched you guys are here. Thank you so much for coming. Thanks for having me. And also, we just found out that Nick has two shows tonight. Two shows. It's a two-show day, which I know from Broadway means you have a matinee. Matinee, an evening show. And so thank you for talking, because I know a lot of people have to save their voice for a two-show day. Well, a lot of people are weak. That's for sure. That's for sure. [09:28] But seriously, you guys are pros. I mean, and you have to sing all the time. [09:34] And good. And sing good. Yeah. You can sing, but you've got to... See, singing is one thing. Singing good is another, you know? [09:42] And do you worry about losing your voice? [09:45] Yeah, I was paranoid about losing my voice or getting sick. Today or just in general? Just this whole run. Yeah, it's kind of like a living stress dream. Oh my gosh. I mean, have you had to cancel shows because of... Because of Nick, yeah. [09:57] We've canceled shows. There was a long run because of me. The first show we were canceled. [10:04] was in Zurich. Nick didn't like Zurich, so we were like, we had to cancel the show. He was like, I'm out of here. But it was nice, because we did have a great day off in Zurich. He stayed in the room. There's nothing better than cancel plans. And I know you love your fans, and you want to provide them. There's nothing you can do about it. There's nothing you can do about it. If your plans are canceled, there's no better. Especially if you're not the one canceling them. But you were in Les Mis as a little kid. One day more.

[10:30] Thank you. [10:30] Another day, another destiny. I did a day, but I'm still alive. You got it. I know a place where no one cries. That show is, I saw it so many times. Me too. When Nick, it was actually one of my like. Oh, when your brother was in it. Yeah, when he was in it. And so it was one of those things where I felt so empowered though. And so like cool kid, because my class in that year that he was in the show, went there on a field trip. [10:57] Like that's their field trip every year was to go see Les Mis. Oh, my history class, I guess. And he was in the show that day. I was like, yes, my brother. It was like, I can get you backstage if you want. It kind of went. No, I got to like leave, like stay there afterwards. And like they all went back to school and I was like, cool. You know, I'm not going back to school. So cool. Thanks, Nick. I wanted to say eldest child to eldest child. Yeah. [11:22] First of all, [11:24] Not a big deal, but you arrived first today. [11:27] I always arrive first. Of course you do. Because, I mean, congratulations to having an older brother who's keeping it together. Definitely not keeping it together, but I'll be on time. But the eldest child. And you guys are basically, you kind of, you two share the middle section. Because you were the baby until. Right. Oh, yeah, we're. [11:46] Yeah, we share the middle child. For those that don't know, we have a younger brother. Yeah. Franklin Jonas. Franklin was born like eight years later than you? Eight years, yeah, after me. He's incredible. Yeah. But he's, you know. [11:59] He took away – I was originally the middle child and then now he fucked it all up. Yeah, he took everything from both of you. I mean you're not the baby. You're not the middle. Yeah, I don't know what I am. You kind of don't matter. Yeah, you're the second of four. There's literally no name for it or anything. How many siblings do you have? I have just a younger brother. That's it. So I'm the eldest. Eldest sister. You guys don't have any sisters to like keep you –

[12:21] Like you keep your... [12:23] brains functioning basically yeah it's a lot it is it's it's a lot of boys it's a lot of boys but now we all have girls so it's you know that's right so it's gonna be a whole thing god is fair god is fair um okay we are going to talk about your new record but i want to talk about new jersey [12:39] So many good singers from New Jersey So many good bands from New Jersey And people Tell us about your hometown Wow We grew up in a place called Wyckoff, New Jersey I still live in New Jersey Because I never really got out It sucked me back in Of course Growing up in Jersey was the first time We did grow up in Dallas as well In North Carolina and Arizona We moved around a bunch with our family But [13:09] New Jersey is where we like. [13:10] was home with it growing up. And when I think it's the first place I remember feeling like riding bikes, [13:16] seeing houses like kids playing in you know the yards and like it was like the first time you saw oh we live in yeah i'm sorry it's just a really funny way to put like i meant to see like white picket fence house like that like the american dream yes i i've never seen a home first time i read about tall house but yeah you're supposed to do the show after 12 o'clock and like you know yeah but you're where you're like your hometown and it's the name of your new record like it's [13:46] it's a, [13:47] you know, that like they saying, like you can't take the [13:50] You can't take the Wyckoff New Jersey out of the boy. Like you –

[13:55] It's like you're like a homing pigeon or something. Like you do end up going back to some version of it or – [14:01] deeply rejecting it. It's like one or the other. That was one of the things that we talked a lot about because we're also... [14:07] gearing up for the tour, which represents our 20th anniversary of being a band. I know. Congratulations. Thank you. It's been a wild ride. But one of the things in just talking through creative that we initially sort of butted heads on and then we found... [14:22] sort of solve for it emotionally. It's like not everyone has a great relationship with their hometown, to your point. Yeah. And not everyone has a great relationship with their family. But one of the things that we're, I think, most grateful for is that our fans – [14:32] have chosen this family, meaning our family, but also each other. And you see it at the shows and they really band together to say that even if your relationship with your hometown is complicated, even if your relationship with your family is complicated, you're safe here in the same way that we felt safe here. [14:48] you know, in our hometown growing up and with each other. Yeah. And it's a pretty incredible thing to look out and see now, that sort of multi-generational effect of the fan base. Yeah. And how it stems, you know, to some really deep touch points for us, both with our roots in Jersey and our musical roots, speaking of some of those legends from Jersey. Okay, I want to talk about the tour because... [15:10] I'm obsessed with how people act on tour. You have all toured at various stages of your life. And let me just say, congratulations on 20 years. I think when people... [15:20] think of you because they met you when you were young. They still think of you. And by the way, this is going to be great as you get older. People will always think you're younger than you are, but they knew you and met you when you were younger. And I don't think they realize the amount of time you've been performing 20 years together is a huge milestone and it's awesome. And you've now I'm sure gone out and toured in a million different ways and tours probably feel

[15:50] What does the touring look like to you? What do you do not do saving your voice going out at night? What does it look like? [15:56] Wow. I think it's changed a lot for us. [15:59] um over the last like five years our our more recent tour we went on it was celebrating five albums yeah so we were trying to play five albums in one show it's about a two and a half hour show wow we did a lot of medleys so we were able to make the time but it was a lot on our voice and just physically exhausting and we played i think a hundred and some hundred how many i don't even know it was a lot of shows yeah it's really impressive incredible and thank you it is and [16:29] You start to realize you're not – [16:31] in your early 20s anymore you have to really take care of your body and so [16:35] For me, I was not drinking before shows. Yeah. [16:39] And then trying to, you know, get at least six, seven hours of sleep. We also all have kids. So we have to be up and we want to be up in the morning. Six or seven. It's not enough. Not enough. And then after the show. Pretty hungry. It takes time to kind of like wind down and decompress. The high is so high. Nick takes way longer. Like I'll be, I could be asleep within an hour. Like on the plane, there's so many photos of Joe has of me just, you know. Yeah, you're out. It's just one of those things. I'll watch a movie. Yeah. But Nick will be up till four or five in the morning just because of the come down. Yeah. [17:09] You know, my mind's like racing after the show about – [17:13] how they could be better. [17:16] And you gather everyone together and you give them notes. Yeah, the notes take a while, too. I think the thing that's the most different for me is... Hours. Hours of notes. I think the thing that's most different for me is, like, I've spent a little bit more time...

[17:32] And after this last tour, I noticed it even more so. But working with someone, like a therapist, to help me understand that coming down from it all, after a big project like that, being in the midst of the touring, I was so in it for so long that I feel like coming down. [17:48] the [17:49] They come off. It can be so dramatic as well. It's almost like everyone says, like, talk about, like, the show blues. Like, after you do a project, like, the next morning, you wake up and there's, like, you're, like, kind of depressed. Well, it can be the same for me, at least, in my personal story about, like, after a tour. Yes, of course. Re-acclimating can be difficult. [18:06] It's so interesting you say that because, you know, I wanted to ask you like your relationship to fame. You've been famous for a long time. And that's a microcosm of the bigger idea of like sometimes success or things that are successful or just like big things. [18:20] giant [18:22] serotonin bursts and like cortisol dumps and all that stuff. Like it is, [18:26] It is a roller coaster to come down from. Well, I think redefining for myself is redefining what the goal is. Yeah. Redefining what a win is. Right. Because things change constantly about like what success means. Yeah. I think now for me, success means like enjoying my time doing what I love. And no matter what the outcome is, as long as we're doing it together, as long as my family is with us and enjoying that and they're happy and that's a win for me. Yeah. [18:56] that's the bigger picture. Yeah. You know, it's easier to say some of these things and, and truly believe that you have a, a grip and perspective on how to maintain some sanity. And then functionally you get into the weeds of, of life in the public eye and, um, traversing all that is complicated about it. I think it's just about

[19:19] Trying your best to, and this is going to sound so cliche before I say it, but trying your best to be a kind and thoughtful person while you're dealing with your own shit. [19:28] That's absolutely right. And I feel the older you get, the more you realize, the less you know. Like you're like, oh, I actually am less certain. And there's some freedom in that too. Totally. But you're fine with fame, Joe? I'm actually really good at it. Yeah. I don't really understand what they're talking about, to be honest. You get it. I don't have no problem. It feels like, yeah. Like literally like every time. I know. It's so funny. Like I'm always like feeling totally fine. We can hear you guys. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I actually told them to say all that. [19:58] and I will add the why kind of what you mentioned earlier that was also on that tour that we were on I think more so after a while 60 shows in wow this mountain that we're going to climb every night and I'm tired or you're going through something really [20:14] crazy in your personal life and you feel like, okay, well, how do I navigate this? [20:19] and also try to do a great performance. I mean, as a person that goes to very few concerts because, because, [20:27] They're too late. They're too long. I'm with you, honestly. I cancel on a lot of concerts. What do you think is the sweet spot? Okay, well, look, there are exceptions. Of course, Taylor, incredible. Her show, it's incredible. Bruce Springsteen, incredible. These shows that should be three hours and are incredible productions. But unless you're going that big, I can't do a two-and-a-half-hour concert. I'm so glad. I'm with you. I'm excited because it's just too long.

[20:57] And I want to hear the hits. I don't know why someone is mad at me when they don't play the hits. I'm like, why are you mad at me? What happened? Why are we hearing the songs that we love? You got me out of my house. I got in my car. [21:12] Or I was driven there. And on the standing. I mean, if everyone could take a seat. I think how great it would be if everyone took a seat. I will say, yes, I understand from the audience perspective. But I think from a momentum perspective for us, I feel like that would be a shift. That would be a shift. The older you get, I get it. But what if everyone agreed? Everyone was like, hey, we're going to have a really good time. And we're not. We'll stand at the end. No pressure. You know when you go and see, like, I saw Fleetwood Mac. [21:42] And then the audience just collectively was like. Incredible. And they're like, they got it. And no questions like, guys, get up. It's Fleetwood Mac. No, they're like, guys, I love Fleetwood Mac. And I got a last. I got a last. [21:58] Like, I can't stand up for an hour. Like, what am I? It's too long. For an hour. Yeah. Are we waiting in line for something? Yeah. Am I at, you know, my granddaughter's wedding? What's happening? They have those things that are like wearable seats now. You can just like flip it back and just kind of stand and sit. [22:12] Serious? Yeah, it's a thing. Wearable seats? Wearable seats? Yeah. You stand and sing? There was a whole bit of this. I just watched it at Silicon Valley. Did it like a whole bit about one of the guys who had a wearable seat. [22:21] And he was like, hated him because of it. I would totally love that.

[22:27] It's basically like a backpack that is... It's like literally like, well, it looks like... And he just like kind of flips his butt back and like sits. Honestly, if I can get a seat, it changes my whole night. If I was at a show and I had a seat, I'd stay another two hours. You know, it's coming in your mail tomorrow. Wearable seats? [22:44] No, but I mean, but I do like... As a person who goes and watches performances and, you know... [22:51] it's funny comedy and music have an interesting, um, like we're kind of cousins. Like I know you guys are big fans of comedy and you're very funny and you've come and done SNL and you have a great sense of humor about yourself and you love funny people. And I feel like that happens a lot with comedians. Like comedians are like, man, I, [23:08] wish I was a musician. Um, like I love the, the, the, the feeling like there's just like, they, they understand each other sometimes. What is your relationship to comedy? How important was it to you? And like, you know, early in our career, we had no traction going on the music yet. This was like 2005 and six and YouTube was kind of new and it was a new and exciting way for us to connect with our fans. And, um, we, we were teenagers with a flip camera, whatever that was. [23:38] And we were just making funny videos and, and we always like, you know, loved and admired, um, [23:45] great comedic actors and and i think probably just had a ton of confidence and obviously no like comedic chops um but it was enough specifically this side of the table no comedic chops but we um we really let's all look to use that as a way to promote our music and then eventually when things started to happen with disney and everything else yeah you know became a lot more

[24:15] whole new world for us but it was i think really empowering and exciting was that um they listened to some of our ideas and allowed us to infuse some of our own voices into the characters that we played and the various projects we did and then so when we yeah we got the call to do snl [24:30] The first time we did it was Valentine's Day 2009. It was wild. The host was Alec Baldwin. Alec Baldwin was the host. He played the fifth Jonas Brother in the skit. It was very funny. Yeah. Yes, he did. And how old were you when you did that in 2009? I was 17. Dang. Yeah, 22. Wow. Wow. [24:53] And it was, yeah, it was like our, one of our biggest dreams come true. And there was this really wild digital short that we did with Andy and the guys. I was just listening to, I listen to Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast. They were talking about it today. Oh, really? Oh, really? Cool. They were talking about it today on the way over here. They were talking about how fun it was to do it with you, how you guys, and it came out of the, like, [25:17] stupid songs you guys would make with each other. Yeah. Yeah. We had a – [25:22] idea of doing some 80s hair metal band called property of the queen great name by the way [25:30] incredible looks in that in that uh in that oh yeah and then they they built this whole story out of it so fun forte was playing guitar with you yeah and um there's some and i think bill was like playing a wizard he played the wizard the whole concept which was the the brilliant unlock of it all we had was like a couple of really dumb songs we wanted to do something with and

[25:52] idea to do like an 80s hair metal band. Ask the wizard! And so Andy was like, what if you guys are like [25:58] time travels or vampires or something. And Bill is this wizard who's granted you this wish to come back in time to play SNL on Valentine's Day 2009. And I catch you. And he catches us in our con. It was very funny. Yeah, it's so good. What was the love song? Our love is like the Great Wall of China. Is that it? Our love is like the Great Wall of China. You can see it from outer space. So good. That's so dumb. [26:28] make up dumb songs all the time and when you're do you sing other people's music yes what do you sing with each other like i have this this theory yeah it's it's not a controversial one but it's it's a litmus test for me of if a song [26:41] could be a hit. Okay. And it's if you can spoof it. Oh, yeah. Oh, great. You can make it anything else. We have with that. And it works. We have one of those. We have a song on the album called I Can't Lose. It says, I can't lose. But I keep singing, I can't poop. It's a hit. And I think it should be a Pepto-Bismol ad or something. Well. But the next line is, when I'm with you. So we'll have to figure that one out. Maybe it's like a date. You're on a date and it's awkward. They're anxious. I can't poop when I'm with you. They're on vacation. [27:11] funny but you're right like specific actually on vacation well yeah that's the thing that people deal with what how do you flip around songs that are out right now like [27:18] I know what you're talking about. [27:20] When you get into a song and then you start singing it,

[27:23] a different way. I mean, you kind of weird out it for better. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And I think that that's a sign. He, he did pick hit songs. Do you sing hard? Do you sing harm? Do you harmonize to other people's songs when you're together? Like, yeah. [27:37] I just want to sing with us, don't you? Yes, because I feel... [27:43] I am an okay singer. I'm fine. I'm not good. But I'm a pretty good harmonizer. But... [27:49] I feel like I want to challenge myself to see if I can get in and create a fourth part. Okay. Love it. What should we sing? How can you stop the rain? [27:59] From falling down. [28:03] How can you say... That was it. Perfect. It was there. Thanks. It's like a middle... It's a middle part. Thanks for entertaining me. I love that song. It's a great song. Great. In fact, your... [28:17] Sorry, what's the name of the single again? Is it up here, Jenna? No time to talk. No time to talk. It's in my email. Okay, I want to play it. But you have it in your email. Yes, it's so good. [28:26] And it has a... [28:28] It's an interpolation. [28:31] That's what they would do. [28:34] So, crazy story with this song. Started writing it like seven years ago. Really? And just assumed that it would never get cleared by VGs and Barry Gibb. [28:45] And finally... [28:47] Top of this year, I pulled it back out of the vault. The music vault. And I was like, we need to finish this song. Yeah. This one's special. And so I teamed up with Julia Mineta, who I started it with.

[28:58] who worked on a bunch of Sabrina Carpenter stuff last year. He's killing it. And Steph Jones had helped finish the lyrics. And then – [29:05] Basically, we sent it to Mr. Gibb, who had come to shows with his family before, and [29:13] just been the absolute best company and, and, um, [29:18] really, you know, supported us early in our career and spent some time with our father and talked about the industry and all this stuff. So we got word back within a couple of days that it was approved and that they were excited about the song. It's like we have a collab with the Bee Gees. With Barry. I mean, the Bee Gees were really big growing up for me. And... [29:38] They were like very famous brothers who also, like you guys, had good hair, great hair, incredible hair, the flow, just incredible. And that's very cool that that Barry was he must have been excited about. [29:53] I mean, it's exciting for us. Interpolation. Interpolation. So this song's just come out. Very excited about it. It's a really good driving song. [30:05] Off a new album, Greetings from Your Hometown. Oh, they gave you an old edit, too, you're listening to. This is an old edit? Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah. Use it. We gave you an exclusive. Well, somebody was like, [30:16] I can't understand what you're saying, Joe. And I was like, I can understand what I'm saying. And they're like, well, we can't. You have to re-record it. So I had to re-record it. Well, on behalf of people that like short concerts. We didn't use it. We stick to the original. It must have been off that email. It didn't sound as cool as when you were mumbling. When you were like, I'd like to know what you're saying. Because I can't understand it. And I want to sing along. I'm saying side to side when your hands are on top of that.

[30:46] No, what are you singing? Side to side. [30:51] You throw some babies and O's in there and it works. [30:56] I was just re-listening to Cake by the Ocean the other day, actually. And it's also kind of hard to understand what you're saying there, but that worked out just fine. Do you know what you're saying there? [31:06] Well, maybe that's another sign of a good song. If it's a mumbler, it's a worker. Well, I think most people don't know. Yeah. I constantly... [31:15] We'll see people in the audience be like, cake by the ocean. That's usually how it goes. Yeah, you just got to get to there. Yeah. Yeah. [31:26] This episode is brought to you by Ultima Replenisher. You know what no one has time for? Over-the-top wellness trends. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for taking care of yourself, but being healthy should make your day better, not harder. And that's where Ultima comes in. With all six essential electrolytes, Ultima provides balanced hydration that fits right into your day. Available in delicious plant-based flavors with no sugar, calories, or carbs. Shop Ultima on Amazon or in-store at Target and Whole Foods Market. [31:56] This episode is brought to you by Visible. How many of you are currently listening to this podcast on your phone? If you are chronically online, like we all are these days, your wireless network should be too. With Visible, you get unlimited 5G data and unlimited hotspot, all powered by Verizon's 5G network. The perks of big wireless for half the cost. Visible isn't just a wireless plan. It's unlimited wireless designed to always keep you connected and no contract holding you back.

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[34:06] When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay. Hilton for the stay. [34:14] I think that flexibility and being able to pivot and also having a good sense of humor about yourself is why it's like longevity in the business. And I do feel like you all have that. You just have to keep pivoting and you have to stay kind of flexible and you have to have a good sense of humor about yourself. Did you learn any of that stuff when you were like – [34:33] Young and because a lot of people that come to SNL, if they come from. . . [34:39] having experience at Disney, we would always say that what they knew how to do really well was work hard and be professional. Like it is to be professional is, you know, [34:49] It's a learned skill. People don't know how to... [34:54] necessarily show up to a set and figure out how to hit their mark and like how to be prepared like those are learned skills and that was always the case with a lot of musicians who came through the show who had that did you feel like you learned stuff like that there when you were there definitely the thing that disney and working with disney on you know camp rock projects for our tv show um [35:17] What it really taught us was work ethic and the ability to be on a set. We had never done anything on a film or TV set, and it's really good training ground. Now, it doesn't necessarily prepare you for deep character work, but that's not really what it's there to do. It's really fun, entertaining stuff for a certain demographic, and I think in our –

[35:39] maybe in our late teens... [35:41] when we were sort of aging out of playing high schoolers and stuff, and then, you know, obviously in our 20s, there's that moment where you're kind of embarrassed by it, or you're like, oh, man, we're known for this thing. Thankfully, we've been able to, you know, make career moves and things where we can look back on that fondly, and I think it marks a chapter in, you know, our fans' life now who have grown up too, and their kids are being introduced to it. And those people, just like the song is for them, those people... [36:09] don't want to feel embarrassed about the stuff they used to like. I mean, that's the thing is like we all, when we were younger, like really invested in things [36:17] at that tender age and we cared about it. And you guys were around for a lot of people's tender ages. And now everyone's growing up together. And it's like, [36:28] Why do we want to go back and be mean to the younger version of ourselves? We're just trying to figure it out. Guilty pleasure is a bad word in my house. [36:36] Ooh, why? It's two words. [36:40] It's like, it's because it's like, you should be allowed. Yeah, yeah. This is what I deal with. Got him. Got him. Yes, Nick, it's two words. Try to come back from that, bro. Like, he's literally sweating. Now we're going to come back from that. You got this, eldest. Here we go. It's been fun. Thanks. We're with you. Guilty pleasure is a bad word. Guilty pleasure is a bad word. Because it's guilty pleasure is a bad word. Because the words. Because it literally is. Defines who you are. [37:06] Yes, agreed. You should be allowed to like what you like. I totally agree. I love it. I think it's fun to think about when you were a kid, the things that you were into that you still love. And there was a season where you were like nervous about it. We used to go on our school bus with CDs and taped cassettes in our hands. And back then you'd like kind of be shy to like show what you're listening to. Now it's like through Spotify. You can listen to everything. And you're like it's everywhere, which is nice. And it's not like a big deal that you're listening to this style music and that style music. And it goes into other weird things.

[37:36] In a totally different context, I was – [37:39] to have this conversation with some people the other day, which is like, it's so hard to get anything made. Totally. Oh, dude. It's so difficult to get anything made, produced, put on a platform of any kind. Yes. And it just feels like we don't have to. [37:53] Use a blanket statement like it's objectively excellent. It can just be good to whoever is receiving it. You're absolutely right. And also, don't you feel like now that you're like you've spent 20 years making things that you really are just I mean, I find myself being way less. [38:08] I mean... [38:09] When you're a teenager in your 20s, there's a lot of black and white. Like, I'll always, I'll never. That sucks. That's great. You're trying to figure out your taste and who you are. But as you get older, you do. And if you're lucky enough to make things, you really do feel like, oh, there's something interesting there. And I like how that was made. And I know that was hard. And I can figure out that process. And I understand what they were trying to say there. But maybe it didn't hit there. Like, you just understand the complexity of making things. Yeah. It's so different. Can I put you in the hot seat for a second? Always. [38:39] Thank you. [38:40] Things that you've done, you did. [38:44] that when you look back on, is there anything you, like, [38:46] In the moment, you're like, this is... [38:49] Silly. [38:50] And, you know, people are laughing, but did it feel like [38:54] Thank you. [38:55] uh this is annoying to be happy doing this bit that they're enjoying and i'm personally like not oh yeah i know what you mean um like that wasn't the most like articulate way yeah like is yeah i think like especially as an actor you know you're you're worried that the way you enter the business will always be the way that you're seeing the business and it's like will i be typecast

[39:16] I remember when I first started, I was doing all these crazy characters. Like I played this... [39:21] young sister of Conan O'Brien on like late night with Conan O'Brien like I was like a nut and then I would get cast a lot as this like [39:28] you know really like intense person and then I did a lot of movies and tv shows where I was an intense person with lots of energy like just kind of forcing people to do things and I was good at it I liked doing it and but then I would worry sometimes am I just always playing this kind of person like am I always going to be seen as this way and I'm not going to be seen as this way and [39:51] Um, [39:52] You know, even just being like starting in sketch, like it was like, well, people just always think of me as this kind of way. And just like you said, it started to become. [40:02] Less the thing I worried about and more the thing I was just proud of because I learned so much from it. I got I got to do so many things because of it. And as long as you believe that you are not limited. [40:16] Then you're not. Yeah. You don't have to. You know, it's basically just like other people's opinion is none of your business. Totally. It just takes a long time to get there, I think. Actually, after I did SNL one time and they said it was exactly what I needed to hear. It was one of the writers who said, hey, just. [40:36] Don't try to be funny. [40:38] And I was like, oh, that hurts in the moment. But then it's like, but that's so accurate. It's funny. Right. So you don't have to jam it to be funny. And it was so freeing. And then I stopped worrying about, am I being silly or am I being this? I'm just, you know.

[40:54] saying the words that are already... [40:57] Funny. That's the vibe I get from you guys is you're – [41:00] confidence and just like goofing around and being funny. And I mean, [41:04] It is. It is. It's just when you get out of your own head and you're just but it takes some time, I think. I think it's like that's that's what comes with age. Well, you're in my favorite movie ever. You know that. [41:14] Okay. [41:16] Our favorite. He talks about it. They talk about it. It's a framed poster that Nick has in his bathroom. Okay, so I want to talk to you about something. So we do this thing at the beginning of each podcast where we talk to people who know our guests, and we kind of talk well behind their backs. And I get to know the guests a little bit, and I kind of prep for the guests with someone who knows them. So I talked to Jack McBrayer. Okay, I was about to say. I love Jack. He texted me yesterday. I love him. [41:41] And he's, you know. I didn't tell me that you spoke to him. He didn't? [41:45] Thank you. [41:45] There's only one Jack that sends a birthday video to you every year, no matter what. No matter what. On your birthday. And it's like, I have people I see every day that don't do that. He, in fact, when we were talking, he said, I only have one birthday today. And I realized, this is a full-time job to keep up with everybody. It's a thing. And people should know. [42:03] We have the same birthday. We have the same birthday. [42:06] September 16th. Same year too. Molly Shannon, same year. Molly Shannon also has a same version. That's right. I set up her Instagram. [42:17] That's amazing. Tell us about that. This is a real story. It's so bizarre. I forgot about that. This is a great story. We were at Sundance Film Festival. [42:24] like in 2016 or 17. And we end up at this bar, we're like having a few drinks, talking. She's like, my daughter really thinks I should get on Instagram. Do you know how to do it? I was like, yeah, give me your phone.

[42:34] And so I set up her thing, and it's like the official superstar is her name. Yeah. Because we were like a few drinks in, just like, what should we say your name is? It's incredible. And it's like stuck. Yeah, I set up her. That's cool. And that is very. And he still runs it. And he has the password still. Yeah. She'll text him photos and videos and say, hey, Nick, can you get this up in the next hour? And Nick's like, I have two shows today. Like, I don't have time for this. She's like, ugh. Damn it, Nick, get it up now. [43:04] loves you guys so much and um and jack and i laughed because during deep covid when no one was going out and everybody was wearing gloves and masks and meeting each other in the driveway jack came to my house to have me sign oh yeah they came together poster for you um because also like it's not like i'm this isn't like a bit like it's legit my it brings me the most joy [43:34] Paul Rudd and I did a movie that David Wayne directed that Michael Showalter and David Wayne wrote. It was a parody of a rom-com. Yeah, and it's brilliant. I did a movie with Paul last year, which comes out either this later this year or next year. And the first day on set, I was like, I have to just ask you. [43:53] how this happened, what's the story. And he kind of gave me the load, I was a table read or something, but then, you know, you guys did the movie. But my point about it is like, it's not just one of those like, [44:03] hilarious quotable movies. It's really smart. And like it makes... I feel like it's a lot of the comedy that Tim Robinson's doing now too. Yeah, like it's sort of ahead of its time. It's so good. And I do have the signed poster. And Jack...

[44:18] didn't remember that he was in the movie. And then we're at a friend's house. What? Hilarious. At Glenn Powell's house with Corey. I heard. You guys are friends with Glenn Powell. Yeah, and I'm like, have you guys ever seen They Came Together? And everyone's like, no, let's watch it. And Jack's like, oh, I'm in this movie. [44:37] No, was that real or was that a jack bit? No, I think he legit forgot that he was in the movie. He's super famous and he works a lot. And he was in, like, playing basketball. He might have forgot. That scene is so good. [44:46] There's a hilarious scene in the movie where it's just, you know, it's that moment in every movie where the men are just trying to figure things out. And they each represent like a different point of view. I'm the married guy. I think you should stay with me. Swish. Swish. They're basically talking about dating and they're just like speaking ex-experts. [45:06] you know just saying their exposition out loud now i'm the guy that doesn't think you should commit and they're playing terrible basketball it's so good my other favorite scene is when you guys are sitting in the coffee shop and he's like all right i'm on the phone and you're like let me try and you can't do it when you're ordering the coffee that's the long thing he remembers your order do you want to get a monkey with key i know i know the whole movie

[45:36] Yeah, wait up. Hey, big brother, slow down. [45:38] Max Greenfield is so good. Okay, so Jack had a question, which is... [45:41] Which is so cute. And so, Jack, but his question was like, what are y'all's conflict style? Like, how do you how do you figure out arguments? Like, how do you. Between the three of us. Yeah. Like when you argue, some people like to. [45:56] Um... [45:58] Some people like to tease. Some people like to argue. What is your concept? [46:02] Conflict style. It's interesting. I feel like it ends up being... [46:09] it's it's some combination of two people are fighting the other is just like sitting back watching observing and seriously how it is okay or mediating playing referee or mediating [46:18] Or it's just like, go off. Like, do your thing. Get this out. Is anyone a yeller? [46:23] None of us are really yellers. We can be like... [46:27] Defensive, reactive. Anyone a punisher, like a silent treatment person. [46:33] Nick a bit. [46:35] A little bit, yeah. I think that's sort of like a, maybe I'm wrong with a retraction. I think you're just trying to work through it. Work through it, yeah. Not like I'm not doing it on purpose. Yeah, you're just like, I'm going to go over here and work, and then I'll come back. Yeah. And we'll talk through it. Yeah. I'm reactive. [46:47] I've always been that way. I try to work on it all the time. Eldest. It's hard. It's my life. You know, I wonder if that. It's my struggle. It's my struggle. It's my life. So reactive. Thanks, Bonjo. Reactive. Like, I just snap back. And I don't always mean what I'm saying. Well, you have a tough job. It's very hard being honest. Thank you. I appreciate talking to you so much. It's so nice. They don't understand. No, I work on it. It's hard. But I also have a very, I have anticipatory anxiety about things. Big word. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're killing it on the words.

[47:17] You're all over the map. Yeah, I'm right. So you're thinking that's because I would argue you're thinking ahead of like you're just wanting to make sure like I'm going to future trip so I can be safe in the future. That's exactly right. And I also I think through it. [47:32] In the negative? [47:33] Okay. [47:34] Because like a little bit of a catastrophizer. Yeah. It's about what would happen if I said this and they're going to react this way and then I go this way. It's like, it's that. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. So I'm dealing with it sometimes. I love that. Your joy. [47:46] the characters yeah i literally just i'm like you're saying this i'm like oh my god this is a script are you reading a script right now no it's the whole way you broke that down like to protect yourself like this is the plot for inside out too it's true it's so good yeah it is so good i understand why i watched it with my daughter and we're both crying for different reasons it's so good it's that's why it was like you're in all my favorite movies including my [48:16] Thanks. Let's give a shout out to Subway while we can. And we'd love for them to give us. I literally heard it this morning. Subway as in. Like the sandwich. I heard it. [48:26] New York City. I'm just trying to get the New York subway up. Yeah. A little notoriety. Yeah. I heard you this morning as I got out of the shower. I was like, I'm going to see her later. But there is something about I have two sons. I think that relationship with brothers is really like. [48:44] really beautiful and cool because exactly what we saw we just see like in this hour is the way you gently tease each other the way you kind of keep each other i got there i think oh sorry yeah no please say we had a superstar mom too so that we still do but okay what did she do that she i mean four boys in one home she was the boss you know there's just and and also understanding how to be

[49:09] nice guys to women and uh growing up just like i think we we needed a loud voice like her to be able to control us and also make sure that we're like pieces of shit so i think that was important but i think also like yeah brothers are boys are so different than girls it's like i watch like i watch my kids on the playground and i'm like it's like delicate and then this kid would be like and [49:36] dive off the top of a slide and you're just like that's that is a boy [49:40] Yeah, I mean, your frontal lobes close well. [49:42] I was just going to say that. Yeah. [49:47] How are you? His is still working on. But yeah, I mean, what is the best – I mean, I know you've been asked this a million times. What is the best thing about working with your brother? Like being brothers, working together, what is the best part of it? [50:01] There is a built-in safety net that it's not to say you can't develop with friends and coworkers and all that, but [50:10] But they need nothing from me. I need nothing from them but just real connection and love and respect. And we're... [50:19] we're family, like we're blood. So it's just, it hits different. It makes every... [50:24] High, super high makes every low a little easier to navigate. And the mundane stuff in between becomes even more fun because you get to do it with two people that you not only love and respect but you genuinely have a good time with. Yeah. So that's my feeling. That's nice. I mean I'm the same way. I like to –

[50:45] fail or succeed with someone. Yeah, it is amazing. So last question. [50:52] What are you guys listening to watching today? [50:56] Reading. [50:57] playing... [50:58] that makes you laugh these days in these like very difficult times where [51:03] Life is pretty rough and the world is... [51:06] hanging on by a thread. What do you do to check out or laugh or make yourself... I really enjoyed the Four Seasons show. Yes! I liked that a lot. I interviewed Will Forte. [51:20] on this pod, which and Tina, I think they're like, I love watching them together. Yeah, it was great. [51:28] So like, [51:29] cozy, cozy shows. Yeah, that's not always my... I mean, I love the studio. The studio was great. So funny. The last two episodes were ridiculous. The cast is insane, too. The cast is... Catherine is on another level. Oh, my God, so good. So great. It's incredible, too. I've just been like... I restarted watching all of Nathan For You because I watched the rehearsals, which I think is just so brilliant and messed up and insane. Yeah. And he finds the most interesting people... [51:59] That's just so great. Did you watch the new season? Of rehearsal? Yeah. I'm watching it right now, the second season. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so I... The woman that talks about... It gets me very stressed. Oh, of course. I can do it. Yeah, I have... [52:11] It's just... There's like a mirror neuron thing where I get very nervous. He just will keep asking questions and he knows what he's up to. I was at a restaurant recently...

[52:21] And he, I saw him and I, [52:24] When I see somebody that I really think I love their work, I don't want to say hi, but I'll like, can I send them a drink or maybe just whatever they're eating and whatever. Can I send something? And I don't need to say hi. I'll sometimes try to leave before. And I saw him. I was like, oh, my God. I love him. I have to send him a drink, him and his friend. And about 30 minutes later. [52:45] The waiter brought over a dollop of mayonnaise. [52:48] and handed it to me and they're like this is from Nathan and I look over and he goes [52:52] and he goes back to this and my friends are laughing so hard I'm like guys he wants don't laugh he wants it so bad and he was really kind of and he walked over and he's like did you get my gift the waiter said that she went to the chef and was like [53:07] She's like, I think I may have put my job on the line because I asked for a job on that. And the chef was so mad. It's a pretty nice restaurant. It was so mad. She's like, please, please. She's like, but I think both of you are really great. And I just was like, this will be a story I can use forever. Yeah, she did. She did. I'm glad. Have we learned nothing from the bear? We need to give the customer what they want. Exactly. Exactly. Yes, chef. Yes, chef. And what about you, Kev? I am currently, me and my wife, we go through like long form like sitcoms. [53:37] that have like 900 seasons. We just started as feel-good. So we're in the middle of Big Bang Theory again. Just so good. Love a rewatch. A simple rewatch. It's a simple rewatch, yeah. Okay, I'm going to let you guys go. You have two shows. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you so much. That was really, really fun. I love this. It was just a blast. Thank you so much for doing it. What a good hang. It was a good hang. And thank you for singing with me. I feel refreshed. And we're going to put that out as a single. Yeah. I love it. Talk to people about it.

[54:05] All right. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Thank you, Jonas Brothers. That was so great. Kevin, Joe, Nick, thank you for being here on a two show day. [54:17] Um, uh, and, and, and, and letting us hang with you and, um, watching you hang with each other. It's, it's, you guys are a lot of fun and I really enjoyed this episode. And, uh, now it's time for the special part of the show, the polar plunge. And this particular plunge is brought to you by Laneige. [54:35] And the Lip Sleeping Mask. I've been using this lip balm during the show. And guess what? Now they are a sponsor. It's an overnight leave-on lip mask powered by Korean skincare to soften lips while delivering intense moisture and antioxidants all while you sleep. I mean... [54:52] I just can't. I just can't say how much I love. I mean, I actually do use it. So Laneige, thanks for. [54:59] for stepping up. [55:00] Okay, now it's time for the polar plunge. We talked about... [55:04] music and going to shows. And I just want to say again, if... [55:08] If you're an artist putting your set list together, cut it in half. We want the show to be shorter. Yes, there are great artists who have three-hour bodies of work that we should go and see and support. But for the most part, my favorite show is a fast one. [55:23] You know what I loved? I went to the Hollywood Bowl a couple years ago in Los Angeles. I saw Billy Joel. The show was an hour and a half. We all sat down the entire time. [55:32] And I sang all of his lyrics because he's easy to understand. So thank you, Billy. Thank you to everybody who sat down. Let's just get that. Let's normalize sitting down during shows. And thank you, Jonas Brothers, for all the shows you're going to perform all over the world. Good luck on your tour. The Laneige Lip Sleeping Mask has a berry fruit complex which soothes and gently exfoliates flaky skin, revealing smooth and supple lips by morning. Shop now at Sephora Stores and Sephora.com.

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