Rachel Sennott

[00:00] This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking your pockets before putting clothes in the washer? [00:09] Oof. Enjoy your freshly cleaned and completely destroyed earbuds. Yeah, checking first is a good plan. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. [00:29] . [00:34] Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Very excited about our guest today. It is the great Rachel Sennett. [00:41] A super interesting, funny, charismatic actress, producer, writer. You know her from the film Shiva Baby, from Bodies, Bodies, Bodies, from Bottoms. She has a new show that's out right now on HBO called I Love LA. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about so many things. Open mic nights. We're going to talk about TikTok and how to use it and work it and what we love about it. She's going to give me fashion advice. And she's going to give me reasons to love LA, which is what her show is all about. [01:11] But before we get started, we always talk to someone who knows our guest, who can tell me something about our guest and give me a question to ask our guest. And we have another supremely talented, delightful, young guest. [01:24] woman joining us today, Molly Gordon. Molly Gordon is an actor. You may know her from the hit show, The Bear, where she plays Claire. She is Claire on The Bear. And she's in films such as Theater Camp and Ojai. She's super talented. And Molly is going to join us and give us some info about her buddy, Rachel. Hi, Molly.

[01:47] Can you hear me? [01:53] This episode of Good Hang is presented by Walmart Express Delivery, getting gifts to your doorstep in as fast as an hour. Who needs elves when Walmart Express Delivery can make Nespresso machines magically appear on your doorstep? And if you do happen to forget something, no judgment, you can even order gifts up until 5 p.m. on December 24th. Santa! [02:15] You might want to take notes. Download the Walmart app or head to walmart.com and get your gifts delivered fast. Subject to availability, terms and fees apply. [02:33] Hi, it's nice to meet you. [02:36] Yeah, I've always seen you from afar, and I'm trying to send you very intense love, and I don't know if I've fully found my way over it, but yeah, but honestly, I've been [02:44] Listening to your podcast before I go to sleep. So, yeah. [02:47] You've been spending a lot of intimate time with me. Oh, yeah. That makes me feel happy. I'm so thrilled you wanted to talk today. I'm so excited to talk about my wife. She really is your wife. I was looking at the stuff that you and Rachel have done together and how long you've known each other. And you really are... [03:06] are [03:07] Married, legally married. [03:09] We're legally married. Yeah, she's my wife. We talk every single day. Wow. Well, if one of us doesn't respond, we'll just keep calling. And it's hard to know when it's like an emergency or not, I would say with her. But yeah, she's an incredible person.

[03:28] human being and like I you guys together is going to be magic. Well, I'm thrilled to talk about her today with you. But before I do, let's not forget about Molly. [03:37] Okay. What's Molly up to today? I'm prepping a movie that I'm going to direct. Fantastic. [03:44] that I'm actually going to send you, Amy, at some point. So we can. Yeah. And you have to tell me live on the podcast if you want to be a part of it or not. [03:54] But I'm good. I just I made hot tea and then I burned. I like burned my whole mouth and then spit it out all over the computer. And that's kind of where I'm at right now. Let's talk about tea for a second because I'm a tea girl more than a coffee girl. Are you too? I like tea. I violently wake up and I want like seven coffees of matcha. Then I have a tea around three. [04:14] Okay, and what kind of tea do you like to drink? [04:17] So I love this hot cinnamon spice Harley, Harney and sons tea, but usually English breakfast or a peppermint. You. Thanks for asking. I enjoy. My favorite tea is an Irish tea called berries tea. [04:32] which I highly recommend. [04:35] And it's a black tea. And I don't like any other. I mean, maybe occasionally I'll do a peppermint. Like if I've had a like a big meal. [04:43] Mm-hmm. Of course. You just want to chill out? We needed to move through you in a way. Probably got it. Yeah. Totally. But I've switched entirely from – I used to be kind of a coffee person. Now I'm totally tea. [04:56] Thank you. [04:57] And it's made a diff. And do you feel like that's changed your whole personality? It definitely has changed my stomach's personality. Because I used to have to drink coffee like it was melted ice cream, like tons of cream and sugar. Yes. Um...

[05:11] And now it's helped a lot to not have to get into that. [05:14] Like just to have that much. [05:16] shit. I moved back to New York and I was like, oh, it's really fun to drink so much coffee and then be trying to make it home to your house. I was nostalgic living in LA for that, like, am I going to make it home? Yes. I mean, for people who, and this happens in a lot of cities, but you get to know where you have to quickly go to the bathroom. You have to learn. And in Los [05:46] in your car. [05:48] It's tough. A sweet green. They're pretty kind at a sweet green. I do have to say they're sweet. Yeah, they're sweet. So when was the first time you met? Tell us about your meet cute when you met your wife. [06:00] So I met my wife, Emmett Seligman, the director of, [06:05] of Shiva Baby had a set of breakfast for me and Rachel, and I'm going to be a little bit [06:10] And we all ate and... [06:13] Rachel thought I was like a real actress because Rachel had just like been a stand up and and she she was asking me a lot like what it's like to be a real actress and lots of questions. And and I was kind of like, I'm normal. I'm just I don't really get work and like we're because I've been in like one movie. Um, yeah. [06:30] But she, yeah, and then we like, we read the script together and she was so funny. And I had just never met like women my age that were that young. [06:41] unapologetically ambitious. Mm-hmm. Like,

[06:46] she is so honest about what she wants in her life and like, [06:51] what she does, what she's trying to achieve, like her, what she does every day. And I would always hide that I wanted those things. And I feel like, [06:59] It was just so inspiring. But yeah, I agree. Like, I think she kind of showed me with like, [07:04] with that film, she was trying out so many different things. And you know, it's that movie is a lot about sexuality and all these things. But she just showed me you don't have to fit in like some box. She was like, sometimes I want to do this. Sometimes I want to do this. And like, [07:16] I don't know. When I was thinking about [07:19] what I wanted to ask her, I was like, how did you have that confidence? Like, that's exactly what I wanted to start with, because, but it's a funny question, right? I've been doing this podcast for a while. And there's people that come in. And I want to say, how did you know? [07:34] what you knew? Like, like, like, how did, how did you get this sense of yourself? And it's a hard one to answer because it's sometimes it's just kind of the way that they came out into the world. Totally. And she's still speaking of what we're saying about containing multitudes, like she's still really vulnerable, but she's just, but I don't, the first time I met her, Amy, she was like, I wrote four scripts. I'm doing this. I want to do this. And like, I had just never seen anyone act that way because you think, oh, that's like going to show that you

[08:04] Yeah. [08:05] But I don't know. It's it's. [08:07] You can get into it with her, but it's like, yeah, she wants to create things and she wants to have great sex and she wants to have a great meal and she wants to cuddle with her friends. Like she wants all of those things and there's nothing wrong with that. And you don't need to choose one person. [08:20] lane to be in or something. She have a baby was made for $200,000. [08:25] Yeah. [08:26] Wow. [08:28] Yeah, it's crazy. And how much did it end up making? [08:33] And that all went to me. Yeah, you have a, your quote was $199,000. Yeah, I had only worked a little bit, but my quote was, I don't know how much it made, but it definitely not that much because it came out in COVID. We do have to say, Emma and I and Rachel always laugh that the movie is huge in London. We don't think, a lot of people don't know it in the States, but in London, we're huge. You walk around in London. [09:01] And it's like the Beatles. In London, I'm like having to go like this, but everywhere else, it's completely hot. [09:08] There must be a lot of like... [09:11] Jewish women who have sex at Chivas. I don't know. Yeah. And they all live in London. [09:18] Okay. So just to be clear, [09:21] Your question for Rachel is what? My question for Rachel is people have said that you from a young age were very unapologetically ambitious. Where did that come from or how did you learn to be that way? Where did that instinct where is the through line? Great question. OK, and then.

[09:39] The last thing I'll say, is there anything you want me to, any story you want me to prompt Rachel to tell? [09:46] She's a very good storyteller, I've noticed, on these kind of things. [09:50] I'd love for you to ask her about the first time that she was fingered. [10:00] Fantastic. I'm sorry. I just, it's an incredible story. And she used to do it in, oh, and I'd also love you to ask her, [10:08] If she'll come back to stand up. Great. So did she tell her fingering story on stage? Okay, great. It's not like a violation. Yeah. You can say the Molly or like someone was bringing up, you know, some of your first pleasuring experience or whatever, but, um, but I think her and I need to get back to stand up. I know they're famous actors now, but it's like, come on, we got to see you on stage. I know. They're so funny. And stand up is amazing. [10:33] So it is like, I want to talk to her about it because as you know, like, [10:37] And you know, from being on stage, like if you can be on stage and hang in there, you build a muscle where you can kind of almost you can handle almost anything. Almost anything. Yeah. It's so good talking to you. You've in the course of us talking, you have your hair has looked incredible down and also looks incredible. I have to be honest. It's a gorgeous up to it's so dirty, but it's really stunning. It is stunning.

[11:08] It looks like you're just ready to walk out of the streets of London and just be mobbed. I got to get to London. I just got to get to London. All right. Have a blast. Okay. Thank you so much. It was so fun talking to you. [11:22] Bye. [11:52] Use promo code SWITCH26 and save beyond the season. It's a deal so good, you're going to want to tell your people. Switch now at Visible.com. Terms apply. Limited time offer subject to change. See Visible.com for planned features and network management details. [12:09] How do you like the height of this chair as a fellow shorty? I love it. I love it. And I love that we're both short. Me too. I always talk about, like, is it a short set or a tall set? [12:22] It's very true because we can't reach things. Things are too high for us. And also, I don't like feeling short. No. Does that make sense? Right now, I'm feeling very tall. Okay, good. I'm feeling 5'6". We're both giving 5'6". We are? Yeah. That's my dream. 5'6 is my dream, actually. Me too. I'm with Rachel Sennett. She is here. Rachel, I'm so happy that you're here. I am so happy that you're here, and so is my entire family.

[12:52] And he was like, tell me about your dad. I'm addicted to him. I love my dad. Okay, this is what is so incredible about people in their 30s. They love their parents. [13:03] You take a journey, and I literally just turned 30 like, [13:09] a couple weeks ago and I locked it's almost like you have to like go away and be like yes my own I'm an adult you don't even fucking know me like and then I like something shifted and you're like [13:22] You're my friends. You know what? It's actually, I do want to talk about that. That's actually really deep. It does happen in your 20s. You have to kind of separate. Yes. And it's painful. It's painful. Was it painful for you? [13:34] Yes. And I'm like scared because I know of everything I've done. I'm like, both of my parents are absolutely listening to every second of this. Okay. Other things they're like, we'll skip that one. So I'm like, let me try to, let me try to carefully. Tell me about your parents. They are, what are they, what were they, what are they like? What did they do? What was their job? Because here's one of my highest compliments. Yes. Yes. [13:57] You seem like a Manhattan Nepo baby, and you're not. Girl, don't flirt with me. Thank you. Thank you. Congrats. Thank you. I am maybe an insurance Nepo baby, basically, in that my dad works in insurance, and he did hook me up with car insurance multiple times. Because I was driving around with a car with no insurance, getting in car accidents, and he was like, let me help you. He was like, this is what I do. This is what I do.

[14:27] accountants and they met when they were both accountants at the same firm and then um fell in love dated secretly fun because they were sort of like we got to keep it low-key which like you they're like we don't want it to mess with the numbers we don't want our romance to get like to screw up the numbers literally by the way they when they got married they got a mug that said which doesn't make sense a mug that said beware of accountants they multiply ah which i'm like [14:57] they don't. You two were already accountants and then you got together and, [15:03] And none of your five children are accountants. Well, excuse me. Five children. Five children. That's a lot of children. Where are you in the birth order of that? I'm second oldest. Ah, okay. So they fell in love and they just started. They multiplied. And they multiplied. They started popping up out. And I will say I feel like they – [15:25] Having five or four siblings, but being in a big family is a huge part of who I am because I think it's like. [15:32] like automatically you have so many different personalities. It's like, if you put us all together, there's like, you could kind of make connections between like pairs, but some of it is really random. Like where you're like, [15:46] All of you guys. And I think like my parents did a really good job raising us and and sort of like taking everyone basically like not putting anyone's needs above everything.

[15:59] another like everyone's career and what everyone does is equally important and like you sort of had to like [16:07] you know, shout at the dinner table to be heard. And like you, you automatically have to compromise because it's like, there's no way everyone's going to be happy all the time. You have two very right brain parents. It sounds like too. Like, so are you like, like, and you have pursued a very artistic path in your family with the siblings? Does it go either way? There's some people that are like strong in STEM and numbers people and other people that are artists. [16:37] say three artists but but because I'm gonna say my mom secret artist secret artist like she she did like my first play ever with me I was like I really want to audition for a play and she was like I'll audition with you this is so different so different and she and she like sings and like plays piano so it's like I feel like [17:00] The art was there. My dad, not an artist, but like trying to make everyone else do art. So he like forced me and my siblings to like play in a quartet for our family. That's very mathy. That's very numbery. Yes. Like you will play. Like, yes. Music and instruments is still like. Still kind of mathy. An accountant stream. That's totally. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Versus. Right. Whatever the hell I'm doing. It's a little, it's a little more lefty loosey.

[17:30] grew up in a family where you had to kind of [17:33] you know, you just have to make space for yourself. Yeah. You have to figure it out. Like you said, you have to kind of compete in a healthy way. Yes. [17:40] One of the things that I love about you. [17:45] not knowing you, we're meeting for the first time, is that there's something about the way that you [17:52] are in your own experience, like your own body that's very grounded and very... [17:57] Um, self-assured and it's kind of like you have it or you don't. It's like this ineffable thing where you just, you, you make us lean into you, Rachel, like you, you're kind of yourself in real time and we're, and we all become very interested and curious about it. Like there's not a grasping energy from you. You're kind of doing your thing and people are like invited to come along. And that's really nice of you to say. [18:27] I feel like it's like [18:29] in comedy and like I read your book I read Tina's book when I was like in college and starting stand up and like I feel like especially when I think to like the beginning when when you're like the first not the first women in comedy but like you're forming a group like I feel like my friend group took so much inspiration from you guys of being like I've got my girls you know what I mean [18:59] carving out that space for yourself and being like,

[19:02] you come to us as opposed to like trying to be a part of the other thing that you're like not necessarily invited to. So let's get into, okay. We talked about your parents. You're in Connecticut. You grow up in Connecticut. And again, you seem like a Manhattan kid. Congrats. Thank you. Um, Connecticut is a strange state. Cause it's like, where is it? Right. Like Red Sox, Yankees, like, what do you want? Okay. And thank you for asking that Red Sox, Red Sox. I got actually like [19:32] my dad reamed my ass because I put on my boyfriend's Yankees cap. I just thought it would be a little flirty. And I picked up a face time for my dad and he was like, take that off. Yeah, that's not okay. You can't do it. No, that's not okay. So you're more on the Boston side, but you grow up there and you get to NYU. Yes. Where is that jump from you? Like at the dinner table, being funny with your family and deciding I want to get to NYU and like be a performer. How does that happen? [20:00] it so i always wanted to like perform i feel like i did the classic thing well wait you were in plays i was forced i was doing plays you were in les mis i was in les mis wow yes it was part i was madame sadardier of course [20:15] Wait, who? She, you just said it in a French way. Madame Tenerier. I was, I was, she was sort of, do you know the master of the house? His wife. Oh, the master of the house lady. Yes. Okay. Sorry. I didn't know her name. No, she is the master of the house lady. You had the comedic part. Yes. I had the comedic part. And you know, anytime I was in a play in high school, they were like, that's a witch or the head of the, like the prostitute house.

[20:45] really it was like that was the only parts i was getting cast in why do you think that was why as a little kid did it because i know but i but i kind of know what you mean because it's usually the comedic part yes yes why were they like seeing something like were you did you have like a maturity and at age or you're just like self-assured on stage you know what i mean like not nervous i think it was like i was not vocally talented and loud and i think loud and i think [21:15] like [21:17] I don't know. I look, I'm like, it was always like, and you're the little, the ratty little whatever. And I'm like, okay. I really, I, because at that time I want, I was like, obviously I want to be Cosette. I want to be Eponine. I want to be like singing the Pretty Little Voice. They heard me sing three bars. They said, you're going to speak the whole song. And they're, they're usually the most boring of the songs. They are. Even though Eponine has some great songs. Cosette has some great songs. Yes. [21:47] is incredible yeah they're bangers but and by the way the girl who played eponine in my high school like went on to play eponine on broadway and i was like wow you know emily bautista i gotta hand it to you you were meant for the part voice voice of an angel incredible incredible yeah so i was like i'm not taking it personally can we talk for a second about [22:07] loud loud because i'm i'm relating like i was a loud kid yeah and there's something like underneath being like a loud young kid yeah that's kind of can be very exciting especially if you're like a young woman not always sometimes people don't like it they make you feel bad about it yeah but it is like it's like carving out space like taking up space yes somehow and people saw that in you

[22:37] just literally like we can't get her to shut up like just give her this part and maybe she'll lose her voice yelling on stage and then she won't be like annoying at home but I do think you're right it's like you have to sort of like be loud first and then figure out how to make it like [22:54] entertaining as you go. But I think once you like break that, I also like, [22:59] I feel like I've always had, like, a loud laugh, which, like, I've read about, like, your laugh at the table reads at SNL and whatever. And it's, like, I think, like, not being afraid to, like, bring joy into the space or be, like, I don't know. Once you start shouting, you're, like, I'm not going to talk quiet. Like, it's just you break into that space and then you can... [23:21] refine what what you're saying or how funny it is or whatever but I think like that instinct was always there yeah and that and that brings you to NYU yes where you kind of join this class of people who are now your friends and successful actors and actresses in their own right who you meet like tell us about coming to NYU like those early days there I so I think I at first felt like [23:46] I didn't fit in at all. And I had like a really hard time because the acting program was very like serious and it was very like Shakespeare. And like we're doing we're like walking around the room and you're a cat and then you're like a chicken. And I was like, but everyone's like crying while they do it. And I'm like, what am I missing? What am I missing? The money is gone. We paid. So I got to do something with this. But wow, this is crazy.

[24:16] I was scared and I just felt, and do you know what I mean? Like, it's like, and, and you're looking around and everyone's like so locked into it. So you're like, [24:25] There's something wrong with me. Do you think they were locked into it or was it like peer pressure to feel locked into it? Cause I, now it feels like a cult, a little where everyone was like, [24:34] I'm crying as the chicken. I'm feeling things like, you know, but I, I, [24:42] I felt like [24:43] There were a lot of opportunities that the school had, which was like the plays, the school did shows that you could audition for. [24:53] Didn't get into any of those. The school had like improv and sketch groups. I didn't get into any of those. Really? [25:01] dang I bet they're regretting that probably not they're probably they're probably like well another year of doing our sketches really I'm really surprised I didn't and Iowa Debrae who I met didn't either and that's when we first met was like at the auditions for those groups sometimes that's just the best motivator literally by the way I'm like I always need whenever like something doesn't work out for me I'm like [25:27] Thank God. Yeah. Whenever I'm like. Rejection is God's protection. Period. And also it's like whenever I'm flopping, I'm not scared. It's when I'm doing well or then I'm happy when I'm terrified. Okay. That is the best way to say it, Rachel, is that to flop and not be scared. To flop and not be scared. That's a very powerful thing. It's a super power if you can do it. Because the best things happen to me right after I'm at rock bottom.

[25:57] Like whenever I'm like rejected hard, whenever like I'm like in love with someone who like is treating me like garbage. That's when I fly. That's when because you sort of like let go of everything. You're like, fuck it. I'm at rock bottom. I don't care. Let's go. That's that's a beautiful time is when I'm soaring that I start. I'm like. [26:17] I'm sorry. [26:19] The ground is really far away. I'm going to fall. Like, and then I get in my head and that's when, yeah. So you are auditioning, you and Io both not making what you want to make. What happens then? Then I think that's when I started being like, okay, I have to find my own opportunities. And I think that's sort of when I like started to find my friends and my community and doing stuff on our own. So I started like, I started doing standup. So tell us about. [26:46] your first like yeah because you were on a date is that true yeah so basically this poor guy is he's also in les mis he was also in les mis no i feel bad because i'm like everyone it's like i still know him he like is um he is like a comedy producer whatever great guy but he basically we went on like [27:10] want I want to call it a date but it was like really like we went to the dining hall and then he like fingered me but it was it was I'm like that was her date but he's a lovely person I use a lovely person that's just college you know but do you know what I mean yeah yeah sometimes that just happens but so he was like you should do stand up I've been going to open mics do you want to come with me to one and so wait and he was going to perform

[27:37] And he performed. He did perform. Okay, so he was like, do you want to come watch me perform? He was like, do you want to come watch me perform, but do you want to go too? Do you want to go too? Yeah, and try it. He encouraged. Got it, got it, got it. Shout out. He encouraged. So we go to an open mic, and I think I did stand up about, like, him fingering me, like, two days before. So I was just like, I have no experiences other than this. It's, like, pretty, like, I'm still, like, a freshman. Can you tell us a little bit more about what you talked about? Would you be okay to tell us? [28:07] okay I will I this part this is where I got into something that I think I've I've hopefully grown out of but I've the fingering was weird and then my first joke which I think he helped me write was that it was like or maybe I think maybe my friend my friend Moss helped me write this part Moss Perconi very funny stand-up and writer on SNL who I just got to work with recently because [28:37] Moss and I would do open mics together, too. So I think Moss actually helped me write this part of the joke, which was that, like, he was fingering me and it was like trying to trick a vending machine. [28:48] Great joke. [28:51] That I think all I brought to the story was, like, it kind of hurt. And then he, like, helped me write that part. Yeah. But I did that. [28:59] And I got like, I also, it's like your first open mic, you go on stage and you're like, also I'm like 18 years old at like a random open mic with like guys from New Jersey. And I'm like, hi, it's my first open mic. So obviously like everyone, the room was warm, warm. The room was warm. It was toasty. Yeah. So I go fill with perverts. Yeah, totally. Absolutely. So, and at the time I'm like,

[29:25] I'm a genius saying a joke. I didn't write in a room full of six perverts who are all just like, maybe she'll only be here for one week and she'll kiss one of us. So at the time I'm thinking like I'm crushing, I am crushing. So I do that joke, whatever. And I get that like, hi, hi, [29:46] of yeah perform totally and then like for the next like two years of open mics I'm really bad but I am like chasing that initial that initial high of performance yes and when you were when you were doing stand-up like were you feeling like there was a party that was like I'm gonna be a stand-up like I'm gonna be a stand-up or did you feel like stand-up was a tool or like a stepping stone to what you wanted to do which was right act direct all the stuff you're doing now [30:16] little bit of both. I think in the beginning I was like, I just want to do whatever I can get my hands on. Yeah. And like, you can do an open mic for like, [30:25] five dollars you buy like a beer or something and you can do an open mic so I was like okay I can do this and I did that I did like every student film exercise that I could do there is like I have like a whole reel of like [30:43] Some of the worst dialogue in history. No, no hate. But it was really like, I'm doing any, I would do them like back to back to back. And I would like skip class to do all these films. But then also...

[30:56] I met talented filmmakers that way. I met my friend, Emma Seligman. And who directed Shiva, baby and bottoms. Yes. And so I was doing that. And then like, I started writing sketches. I and I did a sketch together that that's sort of like one of my early memories of us, like forming a bond because she was, [31:17] so funny and I was like I was laughing the entire sketch completely unusable takes for me but I was like cracking up at her and then like [31:27] I wrote a sketch that these sketches about the babysitters club that she was in. And then we performed on each other's shows. It was like, I was slowly like, [31:37] building out the community of like friends it was like I met Io Moss um my friend Katerina who's a writer director Emma so it was like I felt like I got to like build out my community I mean that's what it kind of feels like the 20s are about yeah is like figuring out who is like me yes how can we help each other out like how can I form some kind of community to get me through the [32:07] to do the thing that I want to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and when you were in that period in your twenties, like, yeah. [32:14] Well, I mean, you just said that you turned 30. I just did. What did you do for your 30th birthday? What how did you celebrate it? Because I got to tell you, my vision of you is that you're partying every night.

[32:26] I am I wrong sometimes but okay okay let me I so many things to say okay first I just have to say I just [32:37] D. [32:38] Do you know about your Saturn return? Not only that, but I believe that I'm going to, in just a year or two, be entering my second. Oh, my God. Because I've been doing research for this because of your show, because I love L.A., which we're going to talk about. And it's all about Saturn's return, which you just went through. I did. And I believe you go through a second one in, I'm 54, but I think you start going through a second one, like 56, 57. Are you scared? I could look it up, but. Are you scared or excited? I'm excited. [33:08] Very exciting. Because it does, I will say, it's nice, back to the rock bottom thing, when life sort of like shakes you up and you're like, [33:18] Whatever. Let's rock. How did it shake you up? Okay, I... [33:24] I feel like it was like, the whole thing is like three years long, but there's really like one month that's like super chaotic. Or for me, there was like a month that was like. [33:35] really bad. And I felt like everything all happened in one month. But basically, like, I feel like, [33:42] In my early 20s, I was partying every night. I was, like, very messy, chaotic. I was, like, crying at the bar on the table. Like, it was really crazy. Yep. Yep. [33:53] Then I feel like I moved to L.A. and I like I got really like a little weird and like hermity and like kind of I don't know. I went through this thing where I was just not feeling good in myself. Like the strike was happening. I was really depressed. And I think I also like had a lot of insecurities about. . .

[34:13] Like, like, [34:14] Thank you. [34:15] Myself as a writer or creator, like I didn't think I could like... [34:19] make something on my own and I was really scared to. And then I think like basically the, the big part of this Adam return was like, I went through a breakup and I, I, [34:33] didn't know about if my show was going to get picked up yet. But in the meantime, I had to sort of say no to other opportunities, which was really hard for me, especially because I think I define myself off of my work and my value off of my work. And so I was like, I have to say no to stuff and like, trust my gut that this is going to happen and that I can make something on my own. And when I say on my own, [34:58] And literally, I made it with amazing room of writers, amazing co-showrunner, directors, blah, blah, blah. Of course. But, you know, women always feel obliged to say that and they don't have to. But he just it was. But I take it back. I can take it back. No, you're absolutely right. Nobody does anything alone. Yeah. Nobody is anything alone. But you're making a really interesting point, which is like which I see. See this in you and women that you're coming up with, which is this, you know, this. [35:24] moment where you have to kind of decide to take ownership of the stuff that you want to make. Yeah. And decide that you're ready to do it. Yes, because no one's... I think it's also like... [35:35] You can't do anything until you do it. Like, it's like I directed an episode. You just have to direct one day and be like, okay. Like, obviously you prepare and you write. You draw the little pictures. Yeah, you make the pictures. All those things. You write the list. And you go, I think the shirt should be blue. Well, that's the thing about directing. And I want to talk to you about this because you've been really – I love how you talk about directing and producing and writing and show running, which is –

[36:00] You know, people act like everything is like a secret room. Like we learned this from Hamilton. Yeah. Like that, like there's a room where it happens and only certain people are allowed in it. And there's a language and a vocabulary and only one way to do something. And it keeps people out of the room. Yes, totally. And then you get in the room and it's like three guys being like, I think we should shoot it really slow. I think we should do it really fast. And you're like, this is all this is what they're saying. [36:29] This is what they're saying in here? Totally. You're kidding me. And they have snacks? [36:33] They're ordering like three rounds of coffees to say, I think we should shoot it slower. I got pissed. Yes. It's incredible once you get inside the room. And then you get a high and then you're like, I'm staying in here and I'm ordering 10 coffees and I was shooting it fast and then slow. So you're going through your Saturn's return. [36:53] You come out the other side and you greet 30. Yes. Do you party on your 30th birthday? I do party on my 30th. That's what I thought. I do, sorry. That's what I thought. I do party. What does that look like? I went to Sicily. Amazing. For my friend's wedding. Okay, great. And I really partied there. Great. And then I stayed there for the week. Perfect. This is what I expected, Rachel. I'm happy to hear that. And I really went off. It was great. It was fabulous. And it was good. [37:23] working for so long yeah like i went into the hole of making the show yeah and now i'm out every night i'll tell you that i am i'm going to a concert tonight if you want to come where are you going i'm going okay i'm going to see you know that girl adela

[37:38] No. I wish I did. You're going to... [37:43] I'm like that song sex on the beat. You got to get under that. Um, Adela. [37:49] we you'll love your concert it's her concert and i'm going and i'm i can't wait and then i'm going to i just basically i this is the other thing tell me if you do this when the slovakian singer songwriter yes very cool she's very cool um but she so i'm going to that tonight but i i do this thing when i'm like shooting something where it's like you put off every single person in your life [38:19] when this is over, I am going to be, I am going to be out. I am going to be just going to the club and then dinner. And then we should go on a hike the next morning really early. Like I make so many promises. And then it's like you, you, you get into a debt, a social debt, but it's actually kind of fabulous because then you just commit to a period where you're like, so you're in that [38:49] because I don't want to do them, but I want to hear your plans. I want to know. Yeah, I want to know what you're doing tonight. Okay, so the plan is we're doing a group. [38:57] Dinner. Amazing. Where? At my boyfriend's house. We're ordering food. Fun. So we have a small group going. Yeah. We're pre-gaming. What time is this? This is probably eight o'clock. Fuck. That's okay. Dinner. I know. I like an early dinner too. Okay. But it's more, it's sort of like, you know, if we do dinner too early, then we're going to get sleepy before the show. Right. So I, we got to sort of what I'm thinking instead is like when, when it should be dinner, that's

[39:27] get a nap. Yeah. But of course, I'll be sleeping with my glam on because I want to keep it for the show. So I'll be sleeping like this. Like a sofa for star. Like a sofa for star. Glam on. [39:37] Like this, getting lipstick on the pillow, and then I'll jerk awake. 7.45. Listerine. You know, squishing around. Yes. Bam. Dinner, people start arriving. Dinner. Order in. Order in. No cooking. [39:57] For that many people? Six. That's crazy. [40:01] Cooking for six people? That's outrageous. What? What are you, some kind of machine? No. I'm cooking for six people? No way. [40:07] I only know how to make sweet potatoes and ground turkey. And then we're going to be burping garlic all over the art hose at the concert. We can't. I can't do that. No. So then you eat. Then we eat. And it's like, you know, drinking a little. Maybe I'm trying on outfits. Maybe I'm leaving dinner, coming back, presenting an outfit to the group. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. [40:27] Okay. Do you do that? No. I don't, but I... [40:33] I, in general, have a weird relationship to outfits. Really? And I'm very, very intrigued by your relationship to outfits. Because for me, outfits, I don't have the feeling like... [40:46] I'll use my good friend Maya Rudolph as an example. When Maya Rudolph gets... [40:50] dressed and she gets to change, she would love to do that. But you're doing like come in and out of the room with different outfits. You're like, look at my outfit. What do we look at my outfit? That to me feels so stressful. Do you know what you should do? Do you like to smoke weed? I don't really smoke it anymore, but I will. Okay. For this, or it could be a glass of wine or a little CBD joint or whatever. Sure. I'd rather weed over wine. Okay. Yeah. Let's do a weed. Let's do like a gummy. Let's do a gummy. Okay. All right.

[41:19] you know fuck a gummy okay now you i kind of think it's good to do this like on your own okay because then you and like maybe by myself yes okay start by yourself because then you're not you know you're not doing it for anyone or you better believe all carbony i'm in my social chapter i'm free so i'm already worried that you're overbooking yourself don't promise okay okay but i'm just saying okay it [41:44] I would say do it in... [41:46] Like the daytime. [41:48] Gummy? [41:49] iced coffee. [41:50] So that you're kind of your body's fighting itself. [41:57] Okay, I'm in my apartment. It's blazing sun. Gummy and iced coffee. Two o'clock in the afternoon. I just cancel all my plans. And what do I do next? I go to my closet. [42:11] Play an elevator, getting really high from the coffee, and then getting really down from the gummies. [42:18] Then what do I do? Then what do I do? You put on music. Okay, music. What do I play? What do I play? [42:26] the ethereal pun okay like like you know you make me feel like dancing okay i'm just kind of telling you about a saturday that i had like a week ago okay perfect and then and then you just start trying shit on okay you throw stuff on the floor and you take pictures with stuff and it's like and maybe like halfway through you stop you order some food and it's

[42:56] when you're not high in the garden anymore. That's going to be really hard for me. Okay. But that's okay. But that's okay. It's part of it. Yeah. It's just like, there's no, like, there's no, I'm cleaning. There's no, I'm organizing. You're playing, you're trying stuff on your, and you, and you should also have a mirror with really good light. This is why I'm saying the daytime. Cause in my house, I have a mirror that only looks good at a certain time. So you can take this and, you know, judge it for like your, your vibe, you know, like, [43:26] This is actually really helpful. [43:29] Because, you know, [43:31] It is about like what you're talking about is about play. Yes. Like not just not making everything so serious. Not making everything so serious. And it's like you can you can take pictures of stuff or lots of times I'll do videos of me like walking and then walk into the camera back. And then I text them all to my sisters and I go like, heart, which ones you like? This feels like a very sister thing. Yeah. Like what sisters do for each other. Yes. And then you can get feedback and then they can be like, drop the vest, keep the scarf. [44:01] Thank you. [44:01] Right. And do you take that feedback? Do you go? Depends. Depends. Depends. Because it's like, sometimes I'm like, you don't know, this is a really good outfit. And then, and sometimes you, by the way, sometimes you'll try on an outfit that you created that day. That's inventing outfits. This feels like level two. I feel like I'm at level two right now. I just need to start by taking the gummy during the day. Just start by getting high in the morning and then work your

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[46:03] 2018Hair.com with the code Amy. [46:06] This episode is brought to you by Subaru. Most cars just stick to the asphalt, but hybrids can be found on dirt roads, back roads, and everything in between. Because the Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid and Subaru Forester Hybrid were built for adventure. With up to 597 miles per tank in the Crosstrek Hybrid and 581 miles in the Forester Hybrid, love goes the extra mile in the Subaru Forester Hybrid and Crosstrek Hybrid. Visit Subaru.com slash hybrid to learn more. [46:36] Maximum range based on EPA estimated combined fuel economy and a full tank of fuel. Actual mileage and range may vary. [46:45] Okay, you and your sisters. Yes. [46:51] Make me think about the women that you have like kind of like your chosen sisters, like you said, Io and another chosen sister is. [46:59] Molly. Yes. Love Molly. Molly Gordon. [47:03] who we spoke to for this interview. Love. I love her. I just talked to her last night. She said you guys talk every day. Yeah. She called you her wife. What? Wife, sister. We're like, we're, it's, which is weird, but we, like five different things. So for people who like are getting, cause I think like, [47:23] There's a lot of people who are getting to know your work, Molly's work, Io's work. Like you are this rising class, I think, of really, really talented artists and filmmakers and showrunners and writers and actors. But Shiva Baby was a film that you and Molly did together that was this teeny tiny film.

[47:44] film that really like exploded and took off. Can you talk a little bit about the path of that? Yes. So that was a crazy experience and it's crazier now looking back at it. Um, because, so it was first a short film that Emma Seligman wrote and directed that I was in and it got into South by and after it got into South by Emma was like, I still remember it was like Emma and I like met up. [48:10] At a dig in. A dig in. What's a dig in? Oh, my God. At a dig in? A dig in. It's a fast casual lunch place. It's like a. Oh, a dig in is a restaurant. It's like a sweet green. It's like a sister of a sweet green. Sweet green was brought up earlier because Molly was like, that's a nice place to go the bathroom. They're usually nice. Sweet green. They'll let you. So dig in. Is that an L.A. thing? No, it's a New York thing. Oh, God. I don't know it. OK, good to know. [48:40] they have them here too but there was really a chapter where it was big okay in new york when we were in college got it so we needed a dig in we're catching up and emma is like i'm gonna make shiva baby into a feature and we were also that's also the same day that we came up with [48:57] the loose idea for bottoms and we started writing it wow so we're writing bottoms while emma's also writing shiva baby and like basically it was like [49:05] this like slow process of building the movie out and it's like no one wants to make a first-time filmmaker's movie it's like so impossible to get people behind you um and it was sort of like this this game of like we're trying to cast the movie we don't have the money for the movie um I want to shout out Rhiannon Jones who was one of the producers who was like the first person to like be like

[49:31] I'm giving you guys money to make this movie and, and gave like a big chunk of money. It was like a super indie movie. I think the budget was around like 200 K, but it's like, that's, [49:42] really hard to raise that money when you are college students. Yeah. All you have is a short film. Of course. So it's like, I remember like talking with Emma and we're like trying to cast the movie without the money, get the locations, but get the funding at the same time. So it was all of that. And yeah, [50:02] When Molly signed on to do it, it felt like, [50:05] oh my god like she's legit because we had seen both seen her in book smart and been like she is [50:11] so funny right so funny and like she's a real actress I mean that's exactly what she was talking about like she said when you guys met you were like you're a real actress and she was yeah but but I relate because when you come through the door yeah like [50:30] comedy, you often feel [50:34] Like that's, that's just kind of like, you just, you've always, that's the door you've always come through. Yeah. And it takes a minute to figure out that... [50:42] you know, [50:43] Everyone is talented at a lot of things. Yeah. So were you feeling then insecure about your acting or anything? Definitely. You were. I was. Because I had never been, I was all of a sudden the lead of a film that wasn't fully funded yet and didn't have a location. Like, it was so, like, it was like, I think we got the rest of our funding, like, a day before we shot the movie.

[51:13] and I clam up [51:15] And I just whisper out. [51:17] Oh, you whisper. I whispered. Right. I was like, [51:22] Because, you know, sometimes when we're really nervous, we get like very sleepy and tired. Really? Really? And I'm like, no one can tell if I'm doing a bad job if they can't. [51:33] hear me or see me. So it's like the first thing we film is that scene where we like run into each other. We talk for the first time at the Shiva and I'm like, it's good to see you. And it's like, Emma's like, [51:47] Cut. And so then Emma like pulls me aside because they're an amazing friend and director and they're like, so... [51:54] we can't hear anything. We can't hear a word that you're saying. And I'm like, totally did this in private. Thank God. And was ended it really nicely, but was like, I think just like maybe have a little more voice. And I was like, totally. We go again. And I'm like, [52:14] so good with you and i it was i was i was like sweating this is so interesting because we started talking about like how little rachel on stage being loud and then you have this moment you're like okay now i'm a real actor and now i'm gonna get very quiet so gone i'm gonna do i'm actually gonna do the it's like i'm not gonna pitch my fastball i'm gonna do the opposite of what i do well i'm gonna drop it i'm gonna drop the ball on the floor yeah go i i well it would be like the

[52:44] Your dad in the Red Sox would want to know that you can extend that baseball metaphor. So it would be... On the mound. [52:52] We're sports. Yeah. So you're... But that's so interesting. So then... And then what happens? And then... [52:57] I think Molly basically was like, [53:00] Molly can do, she like charmed the pants off of me basically. And was like, she just started improv-ing and talking to me and talking before we were rolling. And I didn't feel like I was in a scene anymore. I felt like I was like talking to her and flirting with her, but feeling like, and it just, it clicked for me. And like between Molly and Emma, Emma coming. [53:30] of like really like make her work for it on this one or like like give in on this one giggle on this one and let's move the camera slower on this one let's camera slower on this one faster fast really fast and then molly was like improv and like i just felt like [53:48] Basically, I'm [53:50] They... [53:51] I just felt, like, so, like, brought into the space. And then I felt like I know how to do this. But it was, like, I think I just watched both of them, like, shine and, like, bring me into their, like, atmosphere. [54:11] Like artistry is like a big word, but I kind of felt like they both were like, come here, you, you can do this. And like, I just, it just.

[54:19] Anyways, it really like opened everything up for me. And it was really special. Very cool. Yes. Now, Molly had a question for you. Okay. And – [54:29] Um, the first one was, uh, [54:33] Please have. [54:35] Rachel tell the fingering story, which you already told naturally. I did it on my own. Wow. Huge. Incredible. Um, so thank you for that. And then, and, and she said, basically said, you know, when she met you that what, [54:51] She was so drawn to. [54:53] And what I feel drawn to you right now, I'm feeling the same thing, which is like the great audacity of here's what I want to do. I want to do this. I want to do this. Like, like ambition, not being afraid of it, like feeling like you want to take up a lot of space. And she said that confidence, like. [55:11] Has that all as have you always had that? The question is like, where did you where do you think that came from? It's interesting because I I look back at myself at that time and I think I was like, [55:22] I was very insecure and anxious, but at the same time, I did always have this feeling of like, I have to do this. And I think, I think that's for my family for sure. Like, I think it's like, I, there was like this thing of like, okay, if you're going to do it, then do it. And I think like in my mind, I was like, I can't even entertain the possibility of not doing this because I don't, [55:48] have any other plan. I don't. There's never a job you would want to do instead of this. Did you ever think about like another major or another job other than insurance sales? Yeah. I think now that I'm here, I'm like, I would love to do marketing. I love marketing. What do you mean? I just love marketing. I just started getting on marketing calls and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

[56:10] These girls are fabulous. They're just so I'm just like, I love I love marketing. You like you like figuring out how to get the message out. Yes. You're very good at marketing. You're very good at TikTok. Very good at Twitter. And you better believe I have I have sounds saved for us for a TikTok. Yeah. If you're down. I have a question, a TikTok question for you. How do you get your TikToks to move so fast? You make it slow. I'll show you. [56:40] Do you ever do slow-mo so then it speeds it up? [56:43] No. We'll do that today. You shoot it in slow-mo? You shoot it in slow-mo? [56:47] Yes. So it shoots in. So the sound. Are we talking about a cap cut situation? No. I won't. I won't do that to you. I will not do that to you. Someone's laughing. Claire. Claire is laughing because I had her help me with doing a what I've always wanted to do, which is. [57:08] green screen basically i'm talking in front of a picture that's what i want to do and i don't know how to do it i can show you i can show you today i can show you i just found out how [57:17] Claire taught me and now I can teach you. Okay. We might, we might have to do that. We have to do that. Is talk about ourselves in front of a picture. In front of a picture. We could even take a photo of us post and then we can analyze like our outfits. We could do anything. We can do whatever we want. It's so fun. It's so fun. Why is it fun? Because I think it's fun too. Why do you think it's fun? I feel like I'm playing with clay and dough. Like, I feel like I'm like Play-Doh. I feel like I'm doing crafts.

[57:47] over and go, I made that. I did that just now. It's so fun. It is so fun. And the noises and the colors, it's just the best. But it makes sense to me because you definitely have this [57:59] sense of knowing how to exist in that space. And it kind of comes back to you just like being authentically yourself, which is just hard to teach you. [58:08] You just got to rock it, I guess. You do. But sometimes things happen. I don't know if you've had this where it's like, [58:15] you're like, okay, I'm being authentically myself. I'm being authentically myself. And then you either, these are two things that have happened to me. You're either being authentically yourself and everyone's like, we hate it. And you're like, I should do be someone else. I should be someone else. Or you're kind of being a version of yourself. Everyone's like, we love it a lot. And then you change a little. I'm never going to stop being a slut, but sorry, [58:45] I'm this, whatever. And then you go into a different zone and then you're like, but they still like that. I should keep doing that. But in reality, you're changing. You are the generation that has grown up. Like, when did you get your first phone? [58:55] When I was in middle school. Yeah. Yeah. [58:57] And you've had a lifetime of being online. We talked about this a lot when we were creating the show. I think there's like a lot of times people like look at, [59:06] Like, I'm going to say that my generation, I'm, I'm like zillennial cusp. So I'm not, I'm not claiming. I'm not claiming. What do you claim? Do you claim Z or millennial? I claim zillennial. Cause I feel real. Like I feel a bit of both. Do you know what I mean? When we start getting into skippity toilet, I get lost. Sure. You know what I mean? I'm like, what's going on? I didn't do kindergarten on zoom. So I, you know what I mean? Like I have, I, I didn't have, what is this called?

[59:34] When your brain fully develops? Oh, your frontal lobe. My frontal lobe. I think my frontal lobe developed like... [59:43] What time does that happen? Halfway through COVID. Say COVID. Weird time to have your frontal lobe closed during COVID. During COVID. But I felt it. [59:53] Snatched. You were like, snatched. Snatched. Ah, yes. Yeah. And so I didn't have to go through, like, formative developmental years during COVID or whatever. Like, I think there's something to do with that that I don't have. Right. [1:00:11] But... [1:00:11] The... [1:00:13] Though we were just talking about six, seven. I found out I'm in group seven from TikTok. I found out I was in group seven. Group seven! What does that mean? I don't know. Okay, good. And so if I was fully Gen Z, I would. [1:00:24] Claire, explain it to me because she is because she's 25. Okay, Claire will explain. And she'll show us how to do the green screen. How to do the green screen. Okay, let's talk about I Love LA. I'm so sorry. I'm talking so much. No, it's so good. Same. And you have a great cast and you shoot it in LA. And... [1:00:42] Do you love L.A.? [1:00:43] I do love LA. Okay. What can you help me? Because I'm actually genuinely, it's I'm coming up on like year 15 or 16 of being here. And I go back and forth between LA and New York and I'm not loving LA right now. LA is crushing me a little bit. Okay. I think I want to go back to the East coast. Like I really, you know, my kids are almost out of school. I'm like feeling this giant pull and I'm trying to stay with LA because LA has been very good to me. And it's, there's a lot about it. I love California. There's a lot about Los Angeles. I have a lot of friends here,

[1:01:13] I've made a lot of stuff I'm really proud of here, but I'm just like, what do you love about LA? And can you help me love it too? Yes. I like LA most in the winter. I do too. It's my favorite. [1:01:26] January to April is heaven because everywhere else is freezing. Everyone else. Everywhere else is freezing. Meanwhile, we're going to the beach in an UGG and a hoodie. Beach in an UGG and a hoodie. Yeah. And you're getting, get this. You maybe, okay. Morning. [1:01:42] it's a saturday okay again we'd get me coffee sorry you don't have to but you could do something who's driving who's driving somebody's boyfriend somebody's boyfriend is driving okay not us we're getting in an uber okay but ideally it's like someone's boyfriend is driving like the boyfriend of the friend group he's he's getting he's driving great i like this yeah and you've got a playlist you guys stop you got bagels okay not good bagels so in la yeah yeah okay courage okay great you go [1:02:12] there's a place in burbank called hanks underrated i'm actually giving away my spot but okay i know you bitches aren't going to burbank so it's fine um it's okay i work there so i'm going but you worked at hanks i work no i work at the lot oh you work at a lot so i'm right nearby i was like oh my god you also work at hanks okay i have two jobs okay i have three so you get your bagel so you get your bagel and now you're eating your bagels in the car or you save them you get to the beach

[1:02:42] an ug in a sweater. Yeah. I love, I love the beach in a sweater. Beach in a sweater. It's completely empty because no one else is this good of an idea except for us. And, and you're just like vibe, you're having a beach day, but you're having a winter beach day and you can make it into a thing. Like you could then, then you could go like up to Topanga Canyon and you could buy a set of tarot cards for your friend and go on a hike over there. There's like some really nice hikes in Malibu. [1:03:12] pier you could get like um seafood at broad street oyster company but like you make a day in the winter that you couldn't do somewhere else i completely agree you know i mean i think los angeles california in the winter is where it really shines is really where it shines the rest of the year is tough for me so what if what if you stuck around we do like beach day in the day we'd got me closet [1:03:38] Yeah. And it's like, by the way, we're in bed at seven o'clock. I don't believe you. We will be. If we're starting a day, you already told me about your plan tonight. I know, but that's because I'm in a social chapter. But in January and February, we're hibernating, but we're hibernating with our friends. Okay. Okay. And our community, we're, we're hibernating with like six people. [1:04:03] Or three, if that feels better. That actually really did make me... [1:04:08] like Los Angeles more. What you just said. This is the thing, New York, bam, you're confronted with a new chapter or an event or whatever. And it's thrown in your face and it's fabulous. And it's going like, wake up. You just met this person on the street. LA, you have to do it a little for yourself, but you get to sit down in your room one day, delusional, me, this, alone, high in my

[1:04:38] Have you done ayahuasca? No, should I? No. Okay. [1:04:46] Okay. Are cigarettes making a comeback? [1:04:50] They are... [1:04:52] They are, but we have to stop, but they are. They are. And they're good. But also, who can blame us? Look at what is happening. I know. I know. And they were feeding people the vapes at 12. I know. The vapes hopefully are taking a break, but cigarettes are back. Well, the cigarettes are people trying to wean off the vape. Oh, that's so brutal. Yeah. That's like brutal. [1:05:16] It's heroin to not take your oxy. Heroin to pill. To heroin pills. It's hard out there. Okay. Album you're listening to right now. I've been listening a lot to the Addison album. It's an album that makes me feel very like free. It makes me feel like my mom's friend who always wore yoga pants, who was like really chic. And sexy. And sexy. And kind of a little sleepy. Yes. And in a dream. And so free. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Addison feels very like free to me. [1:05:46] path that you look at and admire. [1:05:49] Definitely. I'm not being a suck up. You can't see. I'm not allowed. You're sitting right in front of me. What if I was like, I need an idea. What if before this podcast, someone pulled you aside and said like, when Amy asked that you, you have to say her, she gets really upset. She gets really upset. Yeah. That would be crazy if they said that. No, I, I just, I do want to

[1:06:19] I'll just say it and then we can cut it genuinely. And then when I'll say someone else. Okay. Okay. But I do really want to say like, genuinely, like you have made a difference in my life going to pursue comedy and going to, to like, you know, [1:06:34] be funny and be loud and be bold. Like, and also be, [1:06:39] Be kind. Like, I feel like when I read your book, I was like, there was... [1:06:45] The ability to be like... [1:06:48] both like bold and loud, but also like vulnerable and sensitive. I think it's that like, sometimes it feels like you're not allowed to have both. And I, I, I feel like you need both and you should be able to. And that's something that I get from you or like I'm inspired by from you. And like, I think like the women use your community, like Maya Rudolph, Tina Fey, all of [1:07:18] So – [1:07:19] That's true. [1:07:20] But now do you want me to say someone else? Okay. [1:07:29] I, Brittany Murphy is an actress that I really look up to. Wow. I think she's an incredible actress or was an incredible actress. Yeah. She's just someone who like, I saw her in like immediately, like when I saw her in Clueless,

[1:07:50] She was. She hosted SNL my first season there. And I remember her being really kind, really super hardworking, very open to ideas. And you're right. She had a sparkly, interesting quality about her. And she could do a lot of things really well. Yes. I feel like had so much range. And like... [1:08:13] I don't know. I felt... [1:08:16] Like there are certain people where it's like, it's like the character wouldn't be the character if it wasn't you playing it. And I feel like she has that, which is really special. When was the last time you cried? [1:08:28] Um, yeah. [1:08:30] yesterday because I, this is the other thing. So I didn't cry for a speed round, but I'll say it really fast. That's okay. You, I like speed rounds to go slow. I didn't cry for like a long time because I was so like stressed about the job and I was trying to take it seriously and be locked in. And I was like, there's no time to cry. There's no time to cry. And then I think now that I'm in my social era and I have like a little space to breathe, [1:09:00] yesterday I sort of had a little bit of a manic episode this goes back to the closet thing where I remembered a shirt from three years ago that I haven't I just was like wait a second where is it where is that and then I started like rummaging through my closet not in a fun way no we gummy just like panicked yeah panicked texting people pictures of the shirt being like have you seen this texting my mom being like is this at home she's like what like that what do

[1:09:30] What was it when you thought of the shirt? Where did you where had you worn it? What did it mean to you? What did it represent? I think it was that I've been living in my place for too long. And I used to live there with my ex-boyfriend. And I moved around to Airbnbs before I lived in that place. And all of a sudden I was just like, where's all my stuff? And who am I? And then I started to cry. Yes. I think that material I think that objects can do that. Yes. And then [1:10:00] what do you do when you want to laugh? What kind of stuff do you do when you need a break, like when you want to get out of your head and just... [1:10:10] feel good and feel good I have a couple friends and my sisters where it's like we send each other like take talks that are like really weird and then like I catch up on all the tick tocks that like my friends or my sisters that be and I like feel like I'm watching like their show kind of the fee that they've curated for me and then I reply to all of them like haha this is us when we're in the car with mom this was us when we would go on a walk during whatever yeah and that [1:10:40] for me it's funny it's like we do this at our work at our office at paper kite we like show each other our feeds yeah to see what where everyone's heads are at yeah and you know sometimes my kids will be like mom your feed is really sad you know like i'm like you're right it's too sad it's too sad like but by the way sometimes that's good because then you can go i'm in a sad period right now totally i'm not in my social chapter i'm not in my social chapter so like what is it what is i'm just as we finish

[1:11:05] Can you remember any TikTok that you enjoy that is funny? Yes. Oh my God. Amazing. You want to show it to me? I would love to. Let me go. I don't even know how to get TikTok on my laptop. [1:11:15] I was going to show you on my phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, here we go. What are we watching? I'm just going through. I mean, let's look. Okay, so how would you describe? Okay, this is incredible. Yes, this is incredible. This is a video of, it says, congratulations, it's a girl. And then it says, the girl. And the girl's walking around wearing a giant pig head holding a baseball bat. To a creepy little song. To a creepy song. [1:11:45] she looks awesome she this diva is i'm like she knows who she is already yes yeah that's very good that's very very very funny okay [1:11:56] And then we've got priest DJ, a priest DJ. [1:12:03] You just feel like he has a hobby and a passion. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, he's having fun. He is having fun. Yeah. All right, Rach, I'm going to have you sit back in your chair so I can properly say thank you for coming and doing this. Thank you so much for having me. This was a damn delight. [1:12:23] Thank you so much, Rachel Sennett. [1:12:26] You are a delight and so funny and charming. And I could have talked to you all day. And, you know, for this Polar Plunge, well, today's Polar Plunge is presented by Visible. When your phone plans as good as Visible, you've got to tell your people. Unlimited data, just 25 bucks a month. Join today at Visible.com. So let's get into this plunge as we finish up this episode. We talked a lot today about Saturn's return.

[1:12:56] that occurs around the ages of late 20s, late 50s, and late 80s. And it's when the planet Saturn returns to the same position that it was in when you were born. So, [1:13:10] We all went through it or some of us went through it or going to go through it in our twenties. I'm just here to say, I'm looking forward to the next return for me, the next change. [1:13:20] I don't know what's around the corner. If life has taught me anything, it's that I cannot predict life. [1:13:25] what is going to happen. But [1:13:28] I look forward to [1:13:30] the first human robot [1:13:34] marriage on TV and, um, [1:13:39] That we will be. [1:13:41] We will have run out of water and we'll be drinking other things during that return. So but if anyone's going through Saturn's return right now in their 50s, write in and let me know how it's going for you, babe. Can't wait. OK, today's Polar Plunge was presented by Visible. It's one line wireless on Verizon's 5G network for twenty five dollars a month. That's top tier network at a budget friendly cost. [1:14:08] Tell your people and make the switch. Terms apply. See visible.com for planned features and network management details. Thank you so much for listening. See you again soon. Bye. [1:14:19] You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane.

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